Do you hunt?

heck ya i hunt kill it and grill it and if it flies it dies. i also fish. outdoorsmen and women are the #1 conservationists."greenies" beware, you talk the talk but we walk the walk....with out government intervention.

I used to. Haven't been out in the last couple years though. I mainly hunt Raccoon and such for the fur. Fur prices haven't been the greatest in the last few years, so I figure it's not worth the effort or the flu potential. I'd go deer hunting, would love a few deer roasts, some smoked deer, and some jerky, but I don't have a deep freeze to put all the meat in, nor a truck to haul the dang thing out.

I used to hunt but not any more. Felons can't have guns. wink, wink
If my probation officer is reading this, I'm going home right after the bar, I mean right after work.

Not since George took away my shotgun!

Yep sure do. No big game for me just birds. Next month cant wait the best month of the year hands down. Love it as a sport but also puts meat in my freezer cant ask for anything more.

My husband is actually going hunting today! Archery season is upon us! When he is not hunting- he is fishing!

I try to hunt as much as possible but it is becoming more and more difficult to find a place to hunt. Most farmers that used to allow hunting now want a significant amount of money to go on their land and thin out one of the varments that affects their crop yield.

Greed at its best.

This is in turn leading to overuse of the public lands and is making the success rate drop for those who rely on those areas.

My family loves to hunt, including my wife. We only hunt deer & turkey. Firearm & archery. Love the outdoors!

"Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits"

I've heard you are a pretty good hunter but when it comes to fishing you are nothing more than a " young grasshopper " and rely on the " master " to put fish in the freezer.
That's OK as you can't be good at everything....

Taking my son deer hunting this year, it'll be his first year. He's pumped, hope he gets one.

HI DOC,
You better get out your calculator and add up those numbers on the old tally sheet!
The MASTER has spoken!

Yes I do and am a Proud Member of PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals...

Hell to the no. I do my hunting at the grocery store.

Try to:

Is it Greedy Farmers or Cheap Hunters???

If you knew the taxes farmers and ranchers have to pay on their lands, you wouldn't complain. Farmers owe the hunter nothing.

Everyone is entitled to make as much as they can, especially if they have something others perceive as having value. Its called the free enterprise system.

I reccommend you hunt with a friend who has connections with a farmer. Then after the season is over, stop out at that farmer's place and give him a token of appreciation like a gift certificate or maybe some summer sausage from the deer you shot. That farmer owes you nothing, but a simple act of kindness will sure get you a foot in the door for next year.

Why? People in this country have more food available in stores and restaurants than they can possibly eat. Obesity rates are quite high. Besides it sounds like murder to me. If for wahtever reason you are starving and have no money, that's another story. We don't go around shooting dogs and cats even though they are in abundance. Next time you want to commune with nature, take a camera and shoot with that.

Sounds like another fish story, Doc.

kitty---wild animals are some of the most healthy of meats. your processed meat is filled with all kinds of cancer causing agents. get the fat kid to hump a couple of hills with a 100 lbs at the tow and maybe there would be a little less obesitity in the world. if its murder then its mmmmm..tasty murder

I do know the taxes that farmers pay. I also know the typical yields that get made off of the crops. I also know that land that is typically used for hunting, ie timber and pasture is valued at a fraction of the cost of usable farmland.

Free enterprise....interesting way of putting it.

I hunted private land for years in another state and always provided some of the spoils of the hunt to the landowner. Once this generation of entitlement inheritted the older farmers land that all ended.

I would gladly offer as much venison or summer sausage as the landowner could handle if it would allow me to get into the timber, but that isnt enough anymore.

Like I said, greed.

I remember a hunter coming to the farm and asking my Dad if he could hunt on the land. He said he hunted all year and bought very little meat. My Dad was trying to make a living raising cattle and hogs and this guy wants to hunt on the land for free so he doesn't have to buy meat. He didn't get to hunt.

i helped the guy out with his hay a couple of times and shot and processed a whole deer for him. never had any trouble geting on his land. but i am very respectful of his land. knock a fence down fix it ect. ect. by all means dont get it twisted it's not free meat. you'll need to spend time money and effort before and after the hunt to insure success.

I used to hunt alot but not so much anymore. We have a beautiful piece of property in the hills over between David City and Bellwood. A large pond, canyons, grass, there are pheasants,quail,deer and turkey. Lots of people from Columbus and our community come thereand we have never charged anything. We had rules; dont litter, respect us and our property,but the 1 rule people couldnt seem to obey was catch and release of the bass. there were huge bass in our pond. The largest I ever caught was 9.2 and MANY people caught master anglers. One couple caught 9 one day, the biggest being over 8 lbs. and they would sneek them out. My point here being if people are nice enough to let you on their land to hunt and fish then RESPECT it and them, if not dont complain about having to pay big money to do it somewhere else. By the way my father still lives out there is 85 and still hunts and fishes. Last deer season I was home and between my dad and some friends from David City we harvested 4 bucks and 5 does. And ,YES, they were yummy.

To kitty hey isn't the beef ,fish, pork, shrimp,all murdered for your meals or are you one of the tree huggers that complain but yet are a hippocrit on the subjects. To don't tread on me NICE comment.

it is hunters like that that give the rest of us reponsible/respectable hunters a bad name.

I grew up with a grandpa and a dad who loved to hunt and I married a man who loves to hunt. I don't do it personally but only because I hate being out in the cold weather that long.

To those people who call hunting 'murder' ... get real. I suppose it's much better to allow the deer to overpopulate and die of blue-tongue. That's much more merciful. Or better yet, how about you take a drive to Omaha and see how many dead deer are lying along the highway. Let's see ... drop a deer in its tracks with a bullet or smack it with your car and allow it to drag itself off the road to die in the ditch, meanwhile causing extensive damage to the car and endangering the people inside ... which sounds like the better option?

If my husband wants to bring home the venison, turkey, duck or goose, I'll happily fry it up in the pan!

Heck ya we hunt, grew up hunting & raising my family to hunt! As my husband always says, would you rather I sat in the bar or in a tree stand?? I vote for the tree stand! Very precious family time!!

If God never intended for man to hunt, he wouldn't have made meat taste so good.

Sometimes I hunt, sometimes I peck.

Don't forget how sue happy everyone is these days. A lot of farmers and ranchers are having a hard enough time hanging onto their family land without the liability issues.

I feel any farmer that is in the "farm program" (free government money ie. welfare) should be required by law to open their land to the public for hunting. I love to hunt but like many find it harder every year to find a place to do so. If you get a government check to suplement your income open your fence to the people that are paying taxes to keep you afloat.

I am put off at all those friendly faces who show up right before hunting season and ask to hunt. They drive an expensive truck have high priced guns and clothing, and they seem to think the buck stops there. We work hard cutting trees and brush, building fence and getting rid on thistles, where are the guys who want to hunt they should come around and spends some days working to care for the land with the farmer, I am sure they would be more welcome. Our taxes keep going up and we have a hard time paying for everything needed. If some one hunts my land for deer or turkey and I have plenty, I expect some kind of pay back. I can not come to town and pitch a tent in some ones yard or have a family gathering and picnic but people think they should be able to use our land for free and if we are not looking sneak in and kill some thing and get back our quick. It is only fair that you offer something to the land owner he provided the feed and habitat for the wild life.
It is part of the yield from his land.
I am not a hunter I am a watcher. I enjoy the wild life.

I can't wait for deer season. I hunt deer, turkey, pheasant, and coyotes mainly but have hunted many other things in the past. Seems like there is less time every year that I can devote to hunting. It's a great way to spend time with family and friends and a lot of fun too.

To Hunter--Of course I eat those things. That's what I said when I talked about eating in restaurants and going to the grocery store. Never said I was a vegetarian. But those foods were all harvested to be sold to people like me who don't hunt. You are going out and killing animals even though it isn't necessary unless you are broke and starving.
To Hunters Wife--Before we humans overpopulated and encroached on their land, the deer weren't being run over by cars. Nature takes care of itself.

Some of my family members have always hunted and fished. But when I was eating frog legs, pheasants, ducks, fish, rabbits, etc., we didn't have much money, and it made sense. I can't say it wasn't tasty because I loved it all. Now I'm an adult, and I don't like killing animals for any reason unless a life is threatened. To each his own.

kitty--- human population has nothing to do with cars hitting deer. granted i will give you the expansion of cities encroaches wildlife and puts us on top of one another. nature doesnt always have a happy ending for overpopulation. chronic wasting, blue tongue all the way down to a heavy abundance in the occurance of worms. thinning the heard is a very productive means of controling health issues in wild animals. now if only we could figure out a way to stop the stupid humans from breeding.(no that comment was not directed to kitty)

Personally I would be more than happy to help the farmer out if it meant I would be able to hunt the land. I enjoy being outdoors just as much as I do hunting and having access to do so is important to me personally.

By the way, are you offering??

Reply to Non Hunter. I like your attitude. I now have a grown son and some grandsons who hunt my land. I am sure you could work out a hunting agreement with a farmer or land owner if you are willing to go out and pitch in. My son is a electrician and all around handyman so he repays us by helping with installing and repair, helps putting hay in the barn.
Others who have in the past hunted my land have given us gift cards. Most of all I prefer to maintain my land as wild life habitat. But I do understand the turkeys and deer or over populated.

Kitty,
When's the last time your life was threatened by a cow, pig or chicken?

To kitty apparently you don't know this but hunting is pretty expensive to do anymore and I didn't call you a veggie eater I called you a tree hugger and by the way cats and dogs are a treat in many countries sounds like their tasty also. Have a GREAT DAY!!

Kitty,
Pigs will fly before you win this argument. That reminds me, I have a pig hanging in my garage waiting to be shaved. I'm just savoring it.

Kitty, you seem very foolish and ignorant with your comments. Obesity?? Shooting cats and dogs?? Only hunt if you are too poor to buy food?? Your viewpoint is ridiculous. Embarrassing. Go find something else to whine about.

I'm damn near 30 and going out hunting for the first time. It's difficult to hunt anywhere near Chicago. I'm gonna hook up with a couple buddies in southern Illinois.
My wife is actually gonna hunt too. We both have become accurate at 200 yds with slugs. 500yds with a rifle.
I already can't sleep.

all right i got something 2 say and i might thread jack a little bit so forgive me...

this is a great example of the culture this country is displaying right now. absolutley no offence to kitty here but the simple ignorance on some peoples parts just baffles me to the fullest and sorry to say (here comes the hatemail and the thread jacking) it is 99.9% of the time comes from city folks. i lived in columbus a good chunk of my days and it was a great town. now dont get me wrong its still a good town or at least still has potential, but there was a time when people just had common sense, lived off tradition, respected family and neighbors and most of all themselves. i laugh at all these people around here that think this is New York city or something. now dont get me wrong i'm all for culture... in moderation. but at what cost. we are in Nebraska it is country. Christ i knew how to skin a deer at 5-6 yrs of age. wasnt perfect but i knew the concept so to speak. i took my 8 yr old nephew with my family camping labor day weekend and he didnt even know how to skip a rock across the lake. W.T.... but of course his daddy is one of those "city folk" he seriously had second thoughts about letting him go and i told him to come with us but then i got the whole dirt and no shower story that only a priss could give. anyway the kid had fun he wants to go again next year. i'm not saying by all means you dont have to go hick up and get a hat and boots. but dont forget the simple life is the most rewarding. all this hi tech stuff is cool but it cant replace the smell after a country rain, sunset above a skyline of harvest corn, skimmin a topwater plug across the water and having a largemouth smash on it, fresh biscuits with homemade gravy, or just sittin in a treestand on a cool fall day waitin to BAG THAT BUCK AND PUT THEM BACKSTRAPS ON THE TABLE BABY!!! anyway food for thought, sometimes i think this town has gotten to big for its britches.

Do I hunt?

HEAVEN'S NO!

To Government Program...how stupid are you...you better do your research before you open your mouth...as a farmer my husband and I pay more property taxes than you do, the "free" money you claim we get from the government is a crock...we also have to pay income taxes on that. We bust our butts to put on YOUR table and you're telling us to open our land to you. HAH We have negligent "hunters" shoot towards our house because of the deer out in the fields in front of our house and then get upset when we go out there with a shotgun and chase them off. Not only is it illegial to shoot from the road/vehicle, it is also very damgerous!!! So you sir need to grow up!!!

To Government Program:

I agree, and I'll go further to add that anyone getting food stamps should open up their home and refrigerator to me. You said it best..."If you get a government check to suplement your income open your fence (home) to the people that are paying taxes to keep you afloat"

Started to hunt & fish at age 12. 30% fun & 70% need. Folks could use the help putting meat on the table. Now I see the mighty weekl end hunter with his high priced gear, expensive fire arms & a poor dog that spends all but the first few days of a season in a wire cage. A waterfowl blind, deer stand? What a challenge. All this just to kill the innocent.(Perhaps the kill may take days of suffering.)Ever consider buying a cow or a hog from a farmer & having him allow you to use your finely honed skills to drop that sucker at 30-40 yards.The farmer/rancher made a buck, you made a kill. All is well.

To dont tread on me--Your post doesn't make any sense. You say humans have nothing to do with cars killing deer. So who is driving the car, the deer? More people, more roads, more cars, wildlife pushed more and more away from their territory. They weren't getting hit by cars before humans started driving.

To MOO--Your attempt at humor failed. Do you shoot cows, pigs, and chickens? I was referring to bears or other large animals. But I suppose some hillbillies will shoot at anything.

To Hunter--Yes everything is expensive now. All the more reason to quit hunting. I know you didn't call me a veggie eater. I said I wasn't--meaning, I do eat meat and fish. But I don't personally go out and hunt it. To my knowledge, cats and dogs are not usually eaten in this country--I never mentioned any other country.

To kitty for mayor--Please don't call me ignorant just because I don't go out shooting animals, trespass on private property, and maybe even accidentally shoot close to someone's home. What university did you and MOO attend? By the way, it's a free country, and I'll whine on any post I please.

I'm not trying to win any argument or even start an argument. Guess I hit a nerve. Sorry.


did you and MOO attend?

Kitty:
Try reading what you type!!
"Now I'm an adult, and I don't like killing animals for any reason unless a life is threatened." Maybe YOU don't kill the cattle, pigs or chicken you eat, but by eating their meat you are responsible for their death. No humor here, just the truth. And yes by your statements, Kitty for mayor is correct, you are less than intelligent.
Bottom line is that an animal must die for you to eat unless you are a vegetarian.
Name calling is a sure sign of childish behavior and lack of education. If being a hunter to help control this countries natural resources makes me a Hillbilly, then I am glad to wear that label you out on me. Just as proud as I am to display the American Flag!

kitty what i ment to say is the explosive reproduction rate of the deer is the cause for more road death. the ave rural pop is on a decline. road traffic in most non metro areas is flat according to the dept of roads. deer pop is on the rise if my memory serves right its been on the rise for at least 5 yrs. you was absolutly right on mothernature takes care of it. starvation, chronic waste, decreased weights, genetic problems, blue tounge, worms, skin dieases. THIN THE HEARD.

No, I don't hunt anymore. Too lazy. It's tough work. Those who don't hunt will never understand the time and effort needed to bring home large game.

Morally, I don't see the difference between actually pulling the trigger or shopping at HyVee. It's nature's way, we kill to survive. Everything does.

My husband and son are going to WY this year to hunt antelope. Last year my son "bagged" his first deer, and his family was proud!

Simply put, hunting is a great family activity. My men love it and that's okay.

My dh used to go out west to hunt, but no one will let his group hunt out there. Their group would camp on a farmers land, and they would process the meat of the deer and give that to the farmer. It worked great for years, then some "fancy" hunter came in and gave the farmer "big bucks" to hunt. Who do you think the farmer chose to let hunt? The "average" guy who gave him back the meat or the "big bucks" guy? You got it- money talks. and that's sad.

So you make new friends and keep going. Our family does a great deal of hunting and fishing- and we're proud of it!!

but if youre a veggy than a poor defenceless plant had to die....sniff sniff...and what about the poor defenceless lil plants?????

As I watch the deer I have noted the does have twins and triplets this year.
We had a sick deer come in to our yard last month it was blind and no sense of smell or hearing. I was able to walk it in to a dog kennel till the game warden could come, it had to be distroyed. Right now I can smell something dead to the south east of our house and also in another area. I did not search to see if they are dead deer. For sure their must be a good crop of deer fawns this season.

To brandnew "My wife is actually gonna hunt too. We both have become accurate at 200 yds with slugs. 500yds with a rifle." Really?? First time hunter and you will be able to make those kind of shots? Yeah right! I'll believe 100 and 250 yards respectively. Shooting beyond those limits with those weapons is generally reckless and wounds game with ill placed shots. See it happen every season.

My hysband and I were avid Deer Hunters, is one of the greatest sports I enjoyed in my lifetime, to be when the sun comes up in a hut together and hunt for deer, just great to spot them, we had so much fun.!!!!!We hunted for many of seasons together and always got a deer, He's gone now but I have very good memories of our times together hunting. We also made deer hambuger and enjoyed it.

re kitty-where the h--- do you think the meat comes from in the store do you think these animals just walk up to the grocery store and die of OLD age? Just like when my niece went on a field trip to a dairy farm one of the mothers raised h--- with the teacher for telling the kids this is where their milk comes- the MOTHER said (we get our milk from the store!!!) Wake up all things have to be killed one way or another for us to eat -if from the store or from a field or a grove of trees'or a shot in a packing plant.dead is dead.....

I've hunted, fished and trapped a better part of my life, my kids grew up eating wild game and fish at times, never hurt them any that I could see, in turn they are taking their kids fishing and hunting and all the other outdoor sports, soccer, football, ect. as they did when they were young. I guess they are just true Midwesterners. Go Huskers

To MOO--Try reading what you type!! You said, "Maybe you don't kill the cattle, pigs, and chickens you eat, but by eating their meat you are responsible for their death". Well, I don't believe the cattle, pigs and chickens are killed just for little ole me to eat. Those animals are raised specifically for food for all of us. Deer and many other animals are free range. I imagine you shoot them because it gives you a rush to kill something and drag it home to display and maybe eat. That's why bison were practically wiped out in the 19th and 20th centuries.

I'm glad to hear you are patriotic and all that, but I seriously doubt you hunt to control our natural resources. But like I said, I didn't post to start an argument, just stating an opinion. Apparently, only hunters and the women who love them are allowed to do that. Ciao!

Kitty:
You just don't get it do you? Sorry, Game, Set, Match!

Kitty, please quit typing. And to "tell the truth" U are exactly right. I have hunted my whole life,im 51, I shoot targets 4 or 5 times a week and only twice in my life have i made a great shot on an animal at 350 plus yards. I think the "newbe" had better get out his roller tape and measure again. There are very few , if any people on this blog that could make a shot on a deer at 350 yds. let alone 500.

So Kitty:

by your rationale, fish and shellfish caught in open waters are not intented to be used as food sources???

Just like Deer and wild fowl, they are essenially free range and not raised by anyone for human consumption.

Talk your way out of that one.

Before the more intense hunting of the deer, they came to my yard at night cleaned out the bird feeders snacked on my flowers. Ate up most every thing in the garden as soon as it came up. If it were not for the people who go out and hunt. More deer would be causing great damage to cars and becasus they were so big from being more mature they may will cause death when hit. You would have them in yard and maybe they would even get in your house. Yes there would be dead and sick deer. So I too wish deer were not hunted but it needs to be done. We do not have bears, wolves and enough cougars to keep the deer numbers down Maybe Kitty would rather we have them stalked and eaten by cougars, wolves and bear. Sure would be fun to hike at the lake and in Pawnee Park then. But better they eat a human than be hunted. Right Kitty

a question for doc....are you the same person that was "hunting" down the runners with your pick up, as they went aroud Wagners Lake?

Kitty wrote:"Deer and many other animals are free range. I imagine you shoot them because it gives you a rush to kill something and drag it home to display and maybe eat.That's why bison were practically wiped out in the 19th and 20th centuries." Actually Kitty, the bison were killed off so the injuns didn't have no food. This way they would leave the land and the white man could have it. : ) Got Meat?

Farmers work hard! Hah! I'm laughing at that. I work construction 7 to 5 (or later) 5 days a week (or more) for 40+ years. How many farmers do that? NONE. Has anyone seen a farmer drive the speed limit? No? Well I wonder why. I've had many days where I was late b/c a farmer getting back from morning coffee was driving excessively slow on the highway. Who is busting their hind end for who here? AND I have to pay taxes to support farmers who can't support themselves. Maybe you should get a real job in the off season and quit begrudging somebody an animal that you don't own. If I was a farmer I'd never turn a hunter away.

previous post.

Kitty wrote:
"Well, I don't believe the cattle, pigs and chickens are killed just for little ole me to eat. Those animals are raised specifically for food for all of us. Deer and many other animals are free range. I imagine you shoot them because it gives you a rush to kill something and drag it home to display and maybe eat."

Actually Kitty, if you are a consumer then the livestock was raised for you. It was raised for you because most people don't hunt for their food anymore but still like to eat meat.

As far as the deer go, they are a "prey species". They eat plants, have wide-set eyes for a wide field of view for seeing predators, good hearing and sense of smell...also for detecting predators. Humans, on the other hand, are "omnivorous". We eat both plants and meat. We have eyes in the front of our head for good binocular vision. This aids in hunting "prey species". We also have some pointy teeth for eating other animals.
Hunting is an instinct for humans. It is stronger in some than in others. It's okay if you don't feel it but some of us do. It's also okay if we enjoy it.
By following game laws hunters/fisherman do also assist in the management of wildlife. We also pay taxes on our equipment that are earmarked for wildlife. Many of us also belong to conservation organizations like the NWTF, DU, PF, etc. These organizations raise money to promote habitat. The habitat is useful to all animals...not just the ones that are hunted.

As much interest as this topic has generated maybe the Telegram should have an outdoors oriented column? Maybe in the Sunday paper like a lot of other papers do.

Sorry about the last post. Hit the wrong key.

To hunter--I have stated previously that I (1) eat meat, fish and chicken (2)I know those items are raised for all of us to eat, are killed and sold in stores. (3)I don't believe in killing free range animals.

I doubt anyone shoots fish (then again, maybe you do).

Some deer are farmed to supply us with deer meat.

Yes I know how we get milk, but we don't kill the cow to get the milk.

To NE2tx--I had no idea you were the post police. Sorry.

To dry ice--Fish can be caught and released. Therefore, it is a real sport. Not so when you shoot with a gun or bow and arrow.

To non-hunter--More than likely, the number of deer actually killed by hunters will not control the population to the degree you seem to think. We've had deer in our yard, probably even a bear. If the deer are stalked by bears, cougars or coyotes, well that is how nature takes care of things. I have not seen any large numbers of sick or dead deer laying around, but I have seen an occasional deer that was hit by a vehicle. In your last couple sentences, I couldn't tell if you mean the deer will snack on us or the cougars, bears and coyotes will get us. Deer eat leaves and twigs, but some foreign forms of deer do consume meat, so watch out!

Rare-Just not quivering--The bison were killed by white men and indians for various reasons. Over 150 years ago, millions of bison roamed the Plains, and the indians killed them for food, clothing, etc. The settlers came in the 1800's and killed more bison. Hunters shot great numbers to feed the men who worked on the railroad. More settlers came and farmed, and more bison were killed to clear the way for farming. The bison were exterminated as a means of creating and maintaining the dominance of the cattle culture in the west. Cattlemen formed an alliance with the US Army, the railroads, and eastern bankers to get rid of the buffalo and the indians. In a 3 year period (1872-74), 4.5 million buffalo were slaughtered.

It's the 21st century, and we have an over-abundance of food in this country. If you are really starving, I will buy you a gift card to Burger King. Then you can go out in the woods and shoot targets. Sorry I've bored you with this, but I hate killing.
The end.

Construction guy...

You work five days a week??? Are you bragging or complaining?

Livestock farmers work seven days a week...all year. You think milk cows know its Saturday or Sunday.

You must think food comes from the grocery store.

Kitty; Why do you make yourself such a target? Do you enjoy the bashing?

A lot of this construction is paid for with public funds. If I worked construction I would feel obligated to shingle farm houses for free.

im with kitty on this one. so one animal species (human) decides to kill another animal for pure sport and gets to use a weapon. Ok so ask yourself why we are allowed to do this, well a group of humans decided it was ok and thus put into motion ur current hunting system. its all bs and killing for anything but Survival is ignorant. im not talking about eating meat either, the act of murder to another aminal for whatever reason the first animal deams necessary

Animal Survival and Instinc, and cowardly humans cheat

To Construction Guy...you have to be one of the dumbest people in the world...Everyday I see construction "going on" meaning there are usually 6 guys standing around while 1 is working, their foreman is usually sitting in his truck "Working" you want to complain about us farmers???? And my family doesn't usually turn away hunters...we are in fact huge hunters ourselves...why would we want someone else to get our food??? You complain about working long hours???? How about you come on out our way during planting when we're in the field long before you roll out of bed and are still in the field long after you fall asleep only to do it again the next day, or during calving when we're up around the clock checking on cows and calves??? Or come out during harvest when we go around the clock to beat an early frost or corn laying down, or beans splitting too early!!! And not driving the speed limit??? Seriously is that all you can complain about??? At least we aren't going 90 slamming into someone else and killing them or ourselves! I just got flipped off the other day because some jerk didn't like how fast I was going in my tractor...if you don't like it pass me, don't be rude though...we feed your sorry butts, those cows in the super markets don't take care of themselves!!! You act as if the farmers owe you, well buddy, we don't if you are on a road contruction crew, you need to do a better job...our roads aren't usually any better after you guys roll through here than they were to begin with!!! And as for paying taxes...go to the courthouse and compare what your taxes are to some farmers...you'll get one heck of a rude awakening...most of us farmers aren't on welfare...we still pay taxes on the money we receive from good ole Uncle Sam...that government program you refer to was implemented to keep YOUR food prices low...do you relize what input costs are to farm...again you'd have another rude awakening...

kitty 2:
Your quote "im not talking about eating meat either, the act of murder to another aminal for whatever reason the first animal deams necessary"
How in the hell do you eat meat if you do not murder another animal? I don't think Tyson waits for the animals to expire on their own before processing them into food for your table.
Kitty:
You can buy elk, pheasant, quial, deer and bison that are comrcially raised and KILLED for human consumption. So your argument is?

Kitty-

I appreciate you taking the time to write down information about things you are not so educated on. Although your post is a noble one and you are obviously passionate about the subject, I do not quite think that you understand most conservative hunters or conservationists. I believe you do not quite get it.
Plenty of people shoot fish. You may not see people in Pawnee Park with dive fins and a snorkel, however others take part in this; in fact, there are sport fish seasons for such activities.
Secondly, without the harvest of wild deer, we risk an outbreak of bluetongue disease as well as increasing automobile accidents due to the abundance of these wiley creatures. Nothing that others have not touched on.
Thirdly, if you live in the area, it is highly doubtful that you have ever had a bear in your backyard. In fact, I will bet my lifetime permit on this.
After dairy cattle run dry of milk, they are sent to Cargill to be slaughtered, so yes, they are killed.
Lastly, the buffalo were nearly wiped off of this earth due to irresponsible, greedy fur traders and lack of regulations. It was not to simply feed railroad workers, they were a threat to oncoming train traffic.
Before we make assumptions, I believe we should take into consideration facts and not go off of gut reactions.
Because of hunters (i.e. licenses, permits and fees) the state and federal government is allowed to properly manage healthy herds or flocks. Without them, we would not have certain areas for these animals to roam protected.

Enjoy the day, ask a hunter to take you out to see the other side and if you want, shoot the animals with a video camera.

I dont think so---

I bet the construction guy thunks milk is made from scratch and all of those cows are just pets. Let's cut out all government subsidies and raise food prices so farmers can make a decent living and then you'll hear construction guy complain about the high cost of a loaf of bread, carton of milk, etc.

Kitty or Kitty 2
I'm looking for a good place to hunt this fall, any ideas?

To Kitty yes people do shoot fish its allowed with a Bow get your freakin facts right.I "doubt" you can.

I hunt for the news but rarely find any here, especially not in the comment section.

Most of you are so anxious to prove your point you aren't reading correctly what I'm saying.

To Hunter--On 9-20 I said I "doubt" anyone shoots fish. I have seen on TV someone shooting fish with a bow and arrow. I just didn't think "real" people not on TV would do it. But perhaps you do since you are a hunter. Is freakin in the dictionary?

To MOO--I also said in that post "some deer are farmed to supply us with deer meat". So your post meant what?

Rare-Just not quivering--You say why do I make myself such a target. Target? Where do you hunt, so I can warn everyone.

To Kiddy--I answered the fish shooting previously. I also touched on the disease problem when I talked about nature taking its course.

No I do not presently live in your area, but did previously from birth to late teens. We have an occasional bear in our county roaming through the neighborhoods. They haven't harmed anyone.

I never said dairy cows weren't slaughtered.

Part of your info on the buffalo is probably correct. But you're kidding yourself if you think our government wasn't behind the killing.

Have Gun Will Travel--Yes. Hunt for a new hobby.

To all the hunters on this topic--It's been fun, but I'm done. Bon apetite.