Hang time for skate park plan

By Adrian Sanchez asanchez@columbustelegram.com
Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 - 11:46:35 am CDT

COLUMBUS -- The relocation of the Columbus skate park is still up in the air as the Board of Parks Commissioners voted to table the issue until the August meeting.

The park board voted 7-1 Tuesday, with board member Steve Kohl dissenting, to table the issue until a location can be identified that best fits the criteria established by the board. Board member David Slusarski was absent from the meeting.

City staff recommended the skate park be located at Hanover Square, south of 14th Street between 15th and 16th avenues.

Glenna Engdahl, board member, said she received “many” calls from residents in the area of Hanover Square who opposed the placement of the skate park in the neighborhood park.

“Most everybody that lives around there does not want it (at Hanover Square),” Engdahl said.

Residents such as Keith Abbott, Bill Tworek and Tom Settje opposed the proposal at Hanover Square.

Abbott said St. Bonaventure students play in that park and installing the skate park in Hanover would take away their play space.

Board member Bill Gannon reiterated the same concern in his recommended criteria for relocating the skate equipment.

“Try to avoid taking away open play area,” Gannon said.

City Administrator Joseph Mangiamelli responded by asking: “Isn’t that going to be something you will face at every park?”

Tworek said the park is utilized more than perceived by the city. He also was concerned if the skate park was located in Hanover that vandalism could increase and conflict may arise between the kids who skate and the ones who currently use the park.

“We are going to have, in my opinion, the wrong crowd there,” he said.

Settje echoed similar sentiments, stating “more activity in that area will create more problems in that area.”

Mangiamelli said, during his presentation to the board, that the students should not be categorized or criticized because of their sport, especially since they could become the next generation of leaders in the community.

The public park system should be accessible to everyone and if the “not in my backyard” outlook is allowed to persist that attitude will snowball, he said. Instead, the board should establish criteria to assess an appropriate space.

Tom Hunt, park board chairman, said a skate park should be maintained in the city’s park system, but it’s a matter of where.

“I totally agree we need to maintain the facility, and we do need to site a location in our park system,” Hunt said. He requested the board establish criteria for the selection process.

The board directed city staff to find a location in one of the larger parks rather than a neighborhood park, a site with enough space for the association to expand the park to a size of 150-square-feet and a park with restroom, water and parking accommodations as well as a shelter for users should severe weather occur.

Greg “Doc” Schaefer, president of the Columbus Extreme Sports Association, said the association looked into alternative sites, such as Centennial Park and East Pawnee Park.

“Centennial Park would work, but we would have to take out the bow and arrow area and handball area,” and it would be close to homes, whereas the current proposal is half a block from the nearest resident, Schaefer said. Also, East Pawnee Park may be more susceptible to vandalism since it will be in the corner of the park and it would remove a city storage area.

Schaefer said the association is just attempting to provide a safe, centrally located skate park that is accessible to everyone in the community.

“The sole purpose is to keep kids safe while doing something they love,” he said.

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Location
Jul 16, 2008 1:32 PM
I think you will face opposition at any park that is in a residential district with the increase of youth traffic current residence in the area will preceive that as more potential for problems. With that being said I would say for the board to start looking at a location within Pawnee Park so there are no current residence being affected.
Dee
Jul 16, 2008 2:39 PM
Has anyone thought of putting in restrooms and shelter at Airport Park and putting it there. That park appears to have plenty of room, it is on a well traveled street to where I would think vandalism would be minimal.

It seems that once again we are trying to take another activity away from the teenage group.
Doc
Jul 16, 2008 8:07 PM
Man am I confused! I got bashed because I suggested that some of the youths that used the Skate Park were bad apples. Seems, according to the article, the skate park is a hot bed for vandalism and all other sorts of bad activities and no one wants it in their neighborhood. Dang, a majority of Columbus' population is wrong!
Hey, I like the helmet the youngster on the front page is wearing. Looks like they got the helmet problem solved!
Chrismouse
Jul 16, 2008 10:12 PM
If the sole purpose is keeping kids safe, then why is the skateboarder shown in the picture NOT wearing any protective equipment? No helmet, elbow or knee pads. I remember when the current site was opened, anyone not wearing the proper protective gear was not allowed to use it, and if my memory serves me correctly, the skate park was closed down SEVERAL times because the kids would not follow the regulations governing the use of the park.
Have these regulations been changed or dropped?
since when
Jul 16, 2008 10:56 PM
Since when is it the cities responsibility to provide "open space" for the St. Bon students? This comment really bothers me "Abbott said St. Bonaventure students play in that park and installing the skate park in Hanover would take away their play space." If they kids need a place to play, it should be up to whatever private school it is, not the city, to provide the play space. The pages can be easily turned to say that because the St Bon students play there, they are taking away space that could be used for the skate boarders. I agree that this may not be the ideal place for the skate board park, but to use the excuse that a private school uses it for their open space doesn't fly with me. I don't feel that it should be up to the taxpayers of this city to ensure that this area stays clear of the skate board park just for their sake.
Realist
Jul 17, 2008 10:00 AM
IT really bugs me that these two gentlemen stereotype people. This shows how small minded these people are. I will bet that they also believe that all wrestlers like other men, longhaired people smoke illegal cigarettes and are draft dodgers, football players are all dumb and so forth. The park is not for private school children only. I personally know many skateboarders who are very intelligent, religous, university college students, respectful, very religous and great people. By the way, skateboarding is also considered a sport and is widely seen on espn, abc, and cbs. I suggest that you rehthnk your stance becuase it could be your children who could be skaters and then it will be all good on your behalf, I hope that you do not teach that smallmindedness to family mambers and you do not surround yourself with those types of people. I feel for you!
Rachelle
Jul 17, 2008 11:13 AM
Dee - I think that would be a great place to put the skate park if it wasn't on a really busy street so close to the highway.

I'd love to see the skate park at Centennial. Move the other stuff to Gerard. Centennial Park is used for youth baseball, has adequate parking and a nearby restroom. There's also a good law enforcement presence in the area.

"since when" brings up a valid point about St. Bons. I wouldn't like to see that resource taken away from them, but it really isn't the city's responsibility to maintain that area for them. I hadn't thought of it that way.
pink
Jul 17, 2008 11:20 AM
I agree with "since when", we shouldn't have to prove play space for the private school system. They can make a play ground of their own or go a public school. Taxpayers shouldn't be responsible for that.
Robby
Jul 17, 2008 12:08 PM
NO NO NO NO an outside park is ok but what would really be neat is an inside park! Think about it it could be open year round. The old sun-mart would be the perfect place for it. Even if they charged a small fee to use it who cares. Give it a shot
Skater
Jul 17, 2008 12:24 PM
Sure, skaters do cause a little trouble. We do not want to be around homes where the noise and problems are in the open.

Just like anyone else we do not want the cops bothering us and would rather be in the middle on no where.

I am not sure if anyone has asked the skaters where they would like it.

As for the person that said St. Bons should get their own land. Would you be for them taking over the block to the south and tearing down the houses for green space? I hope your kids to not use their private playground.
WOW
Jul 17, 2008 12:51 PM
WOW! Can't even decide on a simple skate park area, no wonder it took so MANY years to decide on a viaduct!

SAD!!!!
what about bob
Jul 17, 2008 1:10 PM
Parents of private school students pay taxes just like everyone else. In fact, they keep the taxes of others down by paying for their own schools. It only makes sense that since they pay more taxes than the public trash, they should get more say in who uses the park.
Since when
Jul 17, 2008 1:17 PM
I didn't say that St Bon should get their own land. What I did say is not to use the excuse that St Bon students would loose their "open space" if the skate park moved there. And yes, if St Bons wants their own green space, let them buy up a couple of homes next to their property, sell them to be moved, and you have your very own playground that you can do whatever you want to anytime without worrying that the city will turn it into a skate park. If they want to open it up to the public to use they can, if not they can lock it up when schools not in session.
Robert Reppert
Jul 17, 2008 1:30 PM
Brovo to the CT and ASanchez for the skate park article. You subtelly pointed out by the people's own words the narrow-mindness, stereotypes, and prejudices people have against young people that don't fit the accepted "normal" sports and activities. That form of bigotry extends even to computer gaming, roleplaying, hobbies and many other activities that those of us who practice them have had to put with for far too long.
Rachelle
Jul 17, 2008 1:34 PM
Skater - Our City Administrator held a meeting for the public when this issue first came up.

I'd like the skaters to be in a visible area for the skaters' protection. I think that most of the skate park users just want to skate. Make it visible so people can see skaters are not The Criminal Element.
phreakwars
Jul 17, 2008 2:03 PM
What is this I am reading? Diss'ing the St Bons kids? Yeah so what, they are a private school, are you people saying students of a private school should not be allowed to use a public facility? That since these parents are paying for their child's education, they should just as well cough up the cash for a playground for the kids too? That's pitiful. What my neighbors are referring to with the St Bons kids, is the way the school utilizes the park for the kids. It's not just a St Bons kid here and there, it's entire classes. SCOTUS HIGH ALSO USES THIS PARK. Hanover is a tiny park. The current skate park has a MINIMUM of 500 feet distance to the nearest house (I measured on google Earth). The distance from the CENTER of hanover to the nearest house (and there are many to pick from) is 250 feet or less. Nobody is putting the skaters into any category or saying they will cause trouble, all anyone is saying is "KIDS WILL BE KIDS". So in summary, Hanover is too small, it's used more then Mangiemelli seems to think it is, and is too close to residential housing. Not to mention my objection of it being too close to the soon to be placed pedestrian viaduct. I don't believe there is a "NOT IN MY BACKYARD" mentality. If Hanover was a bigger place and was down a couple blocks more, I doubt myself or any of my neighbors would mind it. I still say it should be placed at the Airport park. It would stand out as an attraction to people traveling the highway.
Skater Hater
Jul 17, 2008 4:13 PM
Isn't it time to let this skate board fad die away?

Tax payers shouldn't be spending a dime on this.
Doc
Jul 17, 2008 5:25 PM
If anyone has any idea what the hell Realist is trying say, please let me know! He may know intelligent people but that is wher it ends!
Relist
Jul 18, 2008 11:59 AM
Ok Doc: open your mind and ears and I will spoon feed you. These two gentlenen are steroyping skaters and showing bigotry and labeling them. By them using that narrowmindedness, it makes me question what they teach their family about a lot of things. It is evident that those people are making judgemental statements about a group that they know nothing about. With THEIR words, then they also must believe that all jocks are stupid, what did they say about wrestlers and tights, what did they say about peoplw who had long hair. We all know and have heard those. The statements made by these gentlemen are wrong and they are words that hurt and pierce a person. Those are negative comments and it shows how small minded they are. If those gentlemen's children were into skatebording, I can bet that they would nominate that park for a place to skate. It is that simple. If you know anythin about skateboardin and I know little, it is a huge upcoming SPORT that is being shown on espn and abc for sure. The X-Games and I know that you watch espn enough to know what I am talking about. I do not skate and will never, but as a sport enthusiast, I appreciate the value, hard work, practice and whatnot it takes to master that sport.

By the way, do not play the sympathy role about private schools should have more rights than someone who pays only one tax. It is your choice to send you children to a private school and you know that consequences for doing it. You can get just as much of a QUALITY EDUCATION AT A PULIC SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!
STOP HATIN
Jul 18, 2008 1:26 PM
Ya I sk8 & proud of it 2. Anything that goes on over 20 years is not a fad. Maybe it's not that popular here but it is very popular in other bigger cities that have better places to sk8. 1 way or another you will be paying 4 it. If this park went away then the cops would b chasing them all over town. The local school's & business would b spending time & $ dealing with them "punks". It's 2008 wake up u rather have crime or skaters there is a difference. I SK8 THATS ALL U NEED 2 NO.
Brian
Jul 18, 2008 3:10 PM
East Pawnee park is the place to put it. Right out there in the middle of all those trees. Police can drive past there just as easily as any other park in town. Don't confuse vandalism with skateboarding. Cite the vandals, if they ride or not, they're the problem, not skateboarding. Police need to bust the mexican gangs that spray paint their gang signs on the skatepark.

If the city can kick the skateboarders out of their long time skatepark, they can move some piles of dirt from east Pawnee Park. The city has plenty of places they could move that material.

I have a hard time believing you'd have to remove anything from Centennial Park to put in a skatepark, there's plenty of room there. Look at google maps and see how close the skatepark would be to homes if they put it where the archery range is. ...then where are they going to move the archery range? The archers are going to be mad now. Then it's going to cost the city a lot of money, to just rearrange what they already have, silly.

re: Skater Hater: You're a very very pityful person. I rode my longboard skateboard to work today, like that dreaded rock'n'roll, skateboarding is here to stay.

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Skaters Mom
Jul 18, 2008 3:18 PM
REALIST- you know exactly what you are talking about and I agree with you completely.

WHAT ABOUT BOB-you are a sorry excuse for a human being if you think kids that go to public schools are "trash".

SKATER HATER- GROW UP!!



All this is supposed to be about is where to relocate the Skate Park - forget everything else. All we want is a place for our kids to practice the sport that they love. Every other sport in this town has a place to do their own thing. That's all the skaters and their parents want.
kitty
Jul 18, 2008 6:59 PM
Stop Hatin--You really should stop skating and start studying in order to learn the english language and proper writing skills. Unless you are a professional skater, you will need the education to get a real job. I think skate boarding is fine, but we all need to grow up some day.
Hanover FC
Jul 18, 2008 7:22 PM
Keep Hanover a breeding ground for the good crowd that goes and plays skennis and soccer in the park. It's perfect the way it is with no skate park
Skater
Jul 18, 2008 9:16 PM
I am in my late 30's and in my quest for the fountain of youth am looking to buy and old school Powell skateboard, to my wife's dismay, like the one I used to ride in my teens. This is so I can make a fool out of myself, and probably break something, while I try and skate with our 12 year old. I like the idea of airport park. Back in the day my friends and I used to hitch a ride on the back of a passing car or bus for a while enroute to our destination. Hanover and Centennial are not centrally located. How about Gerrard? Course it might be fun trying to hitch a ride again, maybe my wife is headed towards downtown.
...
Jul 22, 2008 11:55 PM
I see a pattern here...
looks like people don't want to support a sport they don't understand...
...looks like certain people have a lot of personal issues/emotions they are trying to take out on skateboarding.
...maybe we should just pick up our skateboards and run around and tackle each other because then people would want to pay to see us get hurt...
...
Jul 22, 2008 11:56 PM
Doc,
I'm sorry if anyone else told you otherwise, but this is not a shrink website. You need to take your problems elsewhere to be discussed. Leave the adolescents and their dreams alone.
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Joseph Schutt of Schuyler spends some free time at the Columbus skate park late Tuesday afternoon. The city’s Board of Parks Commissioners voted to table the relocation of the skate park until its August meeting. Telegram photo by Blaine McCartney
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