Osceola dog ban may add bite

By Eric Freeman efreeman@columbustelegram.com
Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:14:10 am CDT

OSCEOLA -- The City of Osceola will hold a second reading of a proposed ordinance to ban American pit bull terriers and seven other dog breeds at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the Osceola City Hall, 451 N. Main.

During a first reading April 8, 14 individuals opposed the proposed ban and four spoke in favor of it. Osceola Mayor Wendell Lindsley said no action will be taken until the third reading is held June 10.

“The current ordinance is very restrictive,” Lindsley said. “The new ordinance, if it passes, will actually ban possession of those dogs listed as vicious dogs from within the City of Osceola.”

Willie Dotson-Monroe owns Maggie, a 2-year old American pit bull terrier. Maggie is the only dog in Osceola known to be listed in the city’s current vicious dog/dangerous animal ordinance.

Dotson-Monroe and his dog live across the street from Renee and Kent Johansen and their three children. The Johansens are leading the move for the ban.

“This situation is a bit of a dilemma, but I want to make it clear that the council is not trying to go after anyone here,” Lindsley said. “We are trying to be proactive and do what’s right before something happens that forces us to take some reactive action.”

Lindsley said community input led the council to address the issue. He said the unanimous acceptance of the introduction of the new ordinance in April showed a consensus among the council.

“The truth is, there are still two more readings, and you never know how someone is going to vote until the time comes,” Lindsley said.

Osceola’s Animal Control Officer, Diana Kelly said there have been no official complaints filed against Dotson-Monroe’s dog.

“We’ve never received a complaint about dog-at-large, barking or anything else on this dog,” Kelly said. “The only complaint I’m aware of is the original complaint that went to the city clerk that there is a pit bull in the city, which is on the list of vicious dogs. Willie has complied with all the requirements of the current ordinance.”

Kelly would not comment specifically on the city’s proposed ordinance.

Dotson-Monroe brought Maggie to Osceola in July 2007.

“I got Maggie when she was 3 months old,” he said. “As soon as I knew I needed to license her, I took care of it. The only training Maggie had before I got her was that she was house-broken.”

Dotson-Monroe said that in December a Polk County Deputy told him his dog was illegal in Osceola and he was given a verbal notice to get rid of her within 24 hours. He said, because the encounter occurred on a weekend, he and his mother, Karen Dotson, waited until Monday to obtain copies of the ordinance.

“There is no where in the ordinance that says I can’t have Maggie in town,” Dotson-Monroe said. “As soon as we knew what we had to do, we did the things in the ordinance.

“We got the $100,000 liability insurance, the stake that could not be pulled out of the ground. We shortened her chain, got her a muzzle and the signs we needed. We didn’t get a kennel, and we couldn’t find a picture sign that warns about dogs for kids who can’t read.

“We talked with the city attorney about those things, and he told us we didn’t need a kennel at that time since we had the chain and that he had gotten the ordinance from another town and he couldn’t find that picture sign anywhere either.”

Dotson-Monroe said he later obtained a kennel for the dog. In April he requested, and has since obtained, a permit for a fence that will enclose the kennel further so the dog will never be outside of a fence when being led from the back door of his home to the kennel.

“I’ve already spent about $1,000 doing everything I was supposed to do, and now they (the council) tell me they’re going to make a law to ban my dog,” Dotson-Monroe said. “This new law is against my 14th amendment rights that says they can’t take my property. They say they’re not going to ‘grandfather’ my dog into the new law. If it passes I’ll fight it all the way and if I have to; I’ll move out of town to keep my dog.”

David J. Hibler incorporated the American Pit Bull Rescue Association in 2004 for the purposes of combating dog-fighting operations, providing information about the breed and to rescue dogs in distress.

Karen Dotson called upon Hibler in April to present information in opposition to the proposed ban.

“The proposed Osceola breed ban is flawed legislation for several reasons,” Hibler wrote in an e-mail response to The Telegram’s questions. “First, it is based on inaccurate science. The considered opinion of all veterinary organizations, dog associations, the American Kennel Club, United Kennel Club, and training groups is that proper dog behavior has virtually nothing to do with breed and everything to do with the animal’s physical conditions.”

Hibler said those contributing conditions include food, water, housing, exercise, socialization to humans and other animals and training and restraint or lack thereof.

Hibler said Osceola’s proposed ban is, in his opinion, arbitrary and capricious in its selection of dangerous breeds.

“Seven of 11 breeds found in the Center for Disease Control bite statistics do not appear on Osceola’s proposed list of banned dogs,” Hibler said.

“The whole concept of attempting to limit injury from dog bites by banning certain breeds is based upon a twisted perception of relative risk in daily life,” Hibler said. Using such logic should cause us to ban everything from bicycles, playground equipment, slippers, balloons and the family car.”

The Johansens, however, are concerned about the safety of their three young children living in such close proximity to the pit bull.

“I know that specific dog has not done anything yet,” Renee Johansen said in a phone interview. “At the March meeting, those in favor of the ban outnumbered those who were opposed to it, and I know I’m speaking for many concerned citizens of our community.”

Following the brief phone interview the Johansen’s issued a statement to the Telegram by e-mail.

“In the past we have had a neighbor’s vicious dog come onto our property and terrorize our three children and two of their friends while playing in our front yard,” the Johansens wrote. “We had to call the sheriff’s department on several occasions when it accidentally got loose. We, as a community, should not have to fear for our lives or fear being mauled by a vicious dog when outside doing yard work, playing outside or walking or biking down the street.”

When asked to clarify their statement, Kent Johansen acknowledged that the dog referred to in their e-mail was not the one owned by Dotson-Monroe.

The Johansen’s said they thought the city council was being proactive in its attempt to keep the community safe and that many Osceola residents had shown support for the proposed ordinance by signing a statement of support in a letter to the editor submitted to their local newspaper.

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John K
May 11, 2008 12:54 AM
Just ban all dogs.

No more barking, no worry about bites at all!
trigger
May 11, 2008 12:24 PM
If I had three children, I would not want a "staked" and "chained" pit bull living across the street from me. That is a recipe for disaster. The Johansens have every right to be concerned, and to limit a potential tragedy before it occurs. Pit bulls are notorious for breakin' loose of chains, particularly to go after children!
http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pitbull-faq.htm
doglover
May 11, 2008 1:22 PM
Ask any vetranarian, animal shelter employee or dog groomer: smaller dogs are more likely to bite then big ones. The times the big ones bite gets more publicity thats all. I am a firm believer that if you get a Pit Bull from puppy age and train them right they are not at any more risk of injuring someone then the little Pomeranian. That does not mean the bite will not be worse, it just means all dogs will bite when aggrivated enough, it is their defense. If this dog has never been deemed dangerous or snapped at anyone and the owner has complied then I believe he has every right to have the dog.
MT
May 11, 2008 1:54 PM
Thank you Osceola for being proactive and putting the safety of citizens first. Too often it takes a significant string of tragedies to go forward. Nobody needs their own yard strewn with dead pets and children to understand the problem.
rob g
May 11, 2008 3:47 PM
I do not think people are primarily conscerned about children being "bitten", this is a conscern about children being "killed". There is no question that pit bulls are more dangerous to children than most other breeds, that is a fact! With that said, they can be held in a secure cage responsibly. It sounds like these people are taking the precautions they need, the city should monitor the facilities but otherwise leave them alone!
E
May 11, 2008 3:50 PM
Look anyway you spin this, this is a very dangerous breed of dog. You can look at the hundreds of attacks each year around the United States that will verify this. These dogs are used in a VERY dangerous manner because they have the natural instincts to attack. I do not care if you have had this dog since it was born, they are dangerous. There is a reason that these dogs are used for protection. If I had three kids and lived next door to this, I also would do everything in my power to get this dog banned. I appauled the Johansen's for there proactive approach, and challenge others to do the same. Sorry but a 100,000 insurance policy will not make up for a dog attacking a child.
Branden Drummond a.k.a Monkey
May 11, 2008 6:52 PM
All i can say is, is that the city council is giving this dog more static than a 2 dollar Ipod. I can't tell you how much it upsets me how people can ban a dog just because of it's breed, even if it has NEVER done anything wrong. That to me sounds like discriminition, but what do i know, i'm not a lawyer. Sure all dogs bite. I've read numerous documented articles from a Jack Russel biting the foot of a 5 month old baby (which had to be amputated) to a bulldog mauling the face of a 4 year old kid. And according to the City Ordinance of Osceola these dogs aren't listed. The American Temperament Test Society tested 586 pitpulls and 494 passed, giving them a percentage of 84.3%. Which is higher than a Bulldog or Collie. If they are such "bad" dogs, why would they use them in search and rescue??

www.atts.org

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_and_events/hardworking_pit_bulls.html

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400908&in_page_id=1770

http://dogsinthenews.com/stories/070301a.php



Zou
May 11, 2008 8:20 PM
This ban makes sense. A 100,000 insurance policy means nothing when a childs life is in jeopardy. These dogs have an agressive natural instinct. I do not care how you raise this dog, it is born with a certain instinct. That is why they are used for protection. Also look at the number of attacks all across the United States every year. How would you feel if this was your child that was attacked. I hope people do not spin this as rights being taken by banning this dog. People should have the right to feel safe on their own property.
setchmo
May 11, 2008 8:28 PM
How was this dog deemed vicious or dangerous? What breeds are being deemed vicious or dangerous? The paper doesn't answer any of these questions. Wouldn't it be better to have a dangerous dog ordinance that doesn't pick on only certain breeds? And while I'm at it, what is a Pit Bull?????
Kent Renee J
May 11, 2008 8:56 PM
It would have been nice to have both sides represented equally in the article. Any dog can bite, but when one of these dog breeds termed as vicious in the ordinance bites, the injuries are usually more severe and can be life threatening or life changing. These dogs are also known for their strength and for being highly protective of their owners and their owners' property. How does a dog know that the street or neighbor's yard is not their owner's property to protect? Nobody can guarantee that their dog will never get loose or will never attack someone. Why should it take an attack to happen in Osceola before we are protected from this safety risk to all citizens in our community?
Some Dood
May 11, 2008 11:32 PM
Well setchmo, i'll be more than happy to answer your questions since nobody here will. A vicious dog (as according to the Ordinance of Osceola) are as follows: Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Chows, Dobermans, Rottweiler, American Bandagge Mastiff, and Neopolitan Mastiff. All of the above dogs are prohibited regardless of behavior, however if you have a dangerous dog i.e. a dog that has aggressively bitten, attacked, endangered, or inflicted severe injury on a human being, well you can just lock it up in a kennel and everything will be hunky-dory. I don't know, but i think they should be switched around (dangerous and vicious).
I-wouldMove
May 12, 2008 5:37 AM
Mr. Dotson-Monroe, I admire your love for an animal. It's to bad we have to live in the new America where you have no rights.

I will 2nd Branden Drummond a.k.a Monkey comment-go check out the facts

This is my opinion-but is Osceola really worth arguing with? I would move-next they will ban your cat
Gizmo
May 12, 2008 5:49 AM
Well,I'm a little late to the discussion but here goes nothing. If they(Osceola city council)get to decide what is "safe" for it's citizens,whats next?No cars..traffic accidents kill and maim far more people than dogs every year. no trees(falling branches and all) No streets(the wee ones might trip and skin a knee)No playgrounds(God..think of the horrors)Lets not even mention inside the house,kitchen knives, bathtubs and even (shudder)the bedroom. All I'm saying is lets not back a government trying to "protect" us by taking something from someone else. Who knows,you might be the next one they take from. Take it for what its worth
Doc
May 12, 2008 7:04 AM
This ban makes about as much sense as banning people of Arab descent becasue they flew planes into the Trade Center.
AZ
May 12, 2008 9:29 AM
I don't know anyone who has been killed by a dog, but i know people who have been killed by guns and war. maybe we should ban those things first. sounds like more fear mongering by a small town city council to ensure re-election.
AZ
May 12, 2008 9:54 AM
also, since children grow into teens, and teens like to vandalize property, i think we should put a ban on having kids. its my right as an American to not have to worry about anything, ever.
djs
May 12, 2008 10:20 AM
Did anyone stop to think that if the Johansens are so bothered about a dog across the street they could MOVE TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD instead of starting all this about one dog?????? Glad I have great neighbors.
Support The Ban
May 12, 2008 11:33 AM
Why should the Johansens move? They were there way before the neighbor with the Pit Bull. I support the ban. Pit Bulls and the other dogs listed are dangerous. It only takes one incident to ruin a family and even cause a death. Then it is too late and the $100,000 liability will not be enough to cover the loss.
Support The Ban
May 12, 2008 11:54 AM
Also, if a dog ever comes into my yard and threatens or attacks my children or family, there is no need for the animal control officer to come confiscate the dog. I will personally deliver the animal to the Sheriffs office with a shotgun shell through its skull.
No Spin
May 12, 2008 12:03 PM
Again people are trying to spin this as taking away rights. Go ahead and look at all the pitt bull attacks across this country. What Osceola is doing is no different then what other cities are trying to do, and that is to Make the city safe. It is a shame that people are more worried about the rights of one breed of dog over the rights of people. I applaud Mr. Johansen for looking out for his family. More people need to take a proactive approach for thier families safety. TO DJS= DOES YOUR MOM KNOW YOU ARE USING THE COMPUTER AGAIN. Maybe when you get out of Junior High and have a family your perception of life will change. One can only hope.
agree with ban
May 12, 2008 12:14 PM
There are some really dumb comments about pit bulls going on here. They are dangerous animals that are bred to fight. One comment earlier is if you raise them from a young pup, they won't be fighters, so using the same logic or lack there of, you could take a mountain lion at an early age, raise it and let it run around the yard with the kids....
As for fences or chains, there is still the chance of human error where someone could leave a gate open or chain unhooked.
Finally, why is it whenever you hear or read about one of these dangerous animals getting ahold of a person or another animal and causing severe injury or death, the owner is usually (not always) standing in front of low rent trailer and has about 5 teeth in there mouth. The comment that always follows is: "I can't believe my dog did this, he has always been so nice, he's never bitten anyone before!" Famous last words.... it only takes once.
Ban these dangerous animals and while you are at it, their irresponsible owners as well.
funny
May 12, 2008 3:30 PM
TO DJS= I have to agree with No Spin, when you get out in the real world you will look at things differently. I have to also applaud the Johansen's for caring about the well being of their family. That is the sign of a good neighbor.
Mike Vick
May 12, 2008 3:41 PM
It seems that after reading the posts in the newspaper over the last year that one thing remains the same. It seems that people have chips on their shoulders from their short comings in life. An example of this is the ban on pit bulls, this ban makes all the sense in the world. People think their rights are being taken from them. If you were to look at these same people I bet they have had many interactions with the police in a negative manner. Like I said, they have chips on their shoulders and how dare somone say they can't do something. I support this ban and applaud the Johansen's for standing up against the LOW LIFE'S OF SOCIETY. If you think the Johansen's should move then yes you are a LOW LIFE.
stumpyhusker
May 12, 2008 3:43 PM
why have a pet that has to be chained down or penned up forever? How fair is that to the pet. We don't even treat criminals this way after they have broken the law. The dog hasn't done anything.
s lady
May 12, 2008 3:49 PM
Let's don't jump to conclusions here--Willie is a clean-cut young man who works two jobs to support his family.
Bobbie Bain
May 12, 2008 3:57 PM
It has been asked before why the family of Maggie is making such a big deal of this whole thing. Yes, for those who didn't catch it I said "family of Maggie". This is Maggie's aunt and she is as much a part of this family as anyone else ever has been. Why is this such a big deal? Why don't they just move? Sure, they could move. But why? Maggie has done NOTHING wrong. Not even a dog at large which is more than I can say for other dogs in the town. Maggie's family is not making a big deal out of this ordinance...The city of Osceola is making a big deal of Maggie. It's really all a matter of how you look at it. Maggie did nothing wrong and neither did her owner. Yet she is being singled out because of an incident with another dog. I will agree that there are bad pitbulls out there, I have also heard of people running from very small dogs. It is not Maggie's fault. We should take precautions, I agree with that. Maggie and Willie did everything in the ordinance that they were told to do, even though she had done nothing wrong. Then still, they want to change the ordinance. Why? If it's not broke, don't fix it. There are dangerous and vicious dogs out there and I don't want them near my two children. My children both love Maggie and we have never had a problem. I also believe that if I were going to ban something I would like to know what I am banning. I know Maggie and I wouldn't ban her. It is not just my oppinion that counts. I don't think either party should move, that is as rediculous as the arguement itself. As for the comment left by "agree with the ban" I might just agree. My brother has all of his teeth and does not live in a trailer and I don't think that that should have anything to do with it because there are a number of famous people who also own pitbulls. Your last comment said it all. The irresponsible owners. People who do not care for their dogs properly are breeding deadly dangerous animals no matter the breed. It is not just the dog, but the people who are raising them and training them. I've put in my two cents for now, but I am sure I will look back later and find two more to put it.
drak
May 12, 2008 4:01 PM
If Osceola is going to be so inane as to ban certain dogs they should ban all breeds found in the Center for Disease Control.
Or if the Johansen's are so paranoid maybe they should be the ones to build the dang fence.
Just plain nuts.
Mama T
May 12, 2008 4:17 PM
This ban is complete and total BS. The dog not being targeted but that will be the only one affected should be left alone. The owner has taken all precautions that he can if the Johansen's are still worried then they should get a fence. Are the Johansen's going to let their children drive, stay home alone, walk to school? They could be killed doing any of those things, it only takes one drunk or creep to run over a child. I am a mother and understand wanting to protect your child but my son is just as likely to get bite by my friends lab and was once then this pit bull. You can not live by the what if's or you will never live. And by the Johansen's if you feed your children preservtives, cook on teftlon or clean you are already killing your children, Sorry but those are facts too.
Social Mange
May 12, 2008 7:34 PM
A 'breed ban' is a knee-jerk, uninformed reaction to a complex problem. A 'breed ban' makes responsible dog owners into second-class citizens solely on the basis of the property they own - their dogs - and kills unoffending dogs solely on the basis of their shape.

Breed bans don't work; U.K. dog bite statistics went up after their ban, as they have in the other jurisdictions where breed bans have been passed.

Public safety is best served by non-breed specific dangerous dog legislation with clear and enforceable provisions, and the political will to fund animal control officers to enforce the law, particularly leash law.

Many writers to this forum have fallen for the media hysteria about "pit bulls" (which are not a breed). The "devil dog" has been the German Shepherd, then the Doberman, then the Rottweiler, now the "pit bull". Whose breed will be next to fall?

Breed bans are also a favourite tool of animal "rights" extremists who want to end pet ownership and eradicate domestic animals. That's right, whenever a breed ban is passed, your right to own the pet of your choice is whittled away.

The owner's behaviour should be the subject of any law. Not the shape of the dog.

The Spin
May 12, 2008 8:51 PM
What a joke. People are trying to make the Johansen's look like the bad guys here for protecting their children. People like Mama T just prove why the ban should go into effect. They are clueless and classless. It is no wonder why society is the way it is. People are more worried about a dog then people's safety. What a shame.
Mike Vick
May 12, 2008 9:00 PM
I'm willing to bet that most of the people who DO NOT support this ban
1.) Live in a Trailor.
2.) Favorite vacation spot is the Platte County Fair.
3.) Have spent time in jail or have mulitple warrants out for their arrests.
4.) Smoke at least two packs of ciggs a day while.
5.) Drinks a 12 pack a day by 5pm.
If you can answer yes to any of these questions then POINT PROVEN...
ZOU
May 12, 2008 9:51 PM
After working in law enforcement in two major metro areas I have learned the true use of pit bulls. The pit bulls protect the protect meaning the drugs. You can ask any law enforcement agent in any city and they will give you the same answer. With that being said these dogs are born with a natural instinct to attack, plain and simple. That is why a pit bull is used instead of a poodle or lab. They are dogs that will protect and guard the product while the owner is away. This is why a pit bull is a drug dealers favorite dog. Look at the Stats.
e
May 12, 2008 10:01 PM
Lions, Tigers, and Bears. Why not have these animals be legal. If these animals have not bitten anybody and they are raised right then why can't we have them as pets. This is discrimination towards Lions, Tigers, and Bears. Afterall they let a Monkey run around Osceola without being chained up.
With the ban all the way
May 12, 2008 10:51 PM
I believe the Johansen's are trying to get this ban passed for not just the safety of their own children, but for the whole town also. Like others have stated before, it only takes one time, and one attack to change a families life forever. Why take the risk? Yes a dog may seem nice, but nobody knows when a dog could turn on anybody. I think what the Johansen's are doing is a good thing. The question is: Are people willing to fight for dogs' rights instead of being more concerned for a human's life?.... One time, one attack could change a life forever...
with the ban all the way
May 12, 2008 11:21 PM
if it was my decision I would ban all the vicious breeds right away... NO QUESTIONS ASKED... and here's to S LADY: you may think this willie may be a clean-cut person but seriously what the heck does that have to do with the dog?!!!
Im Sorry
May 13, 2008 2:12 AM
AN APOLOGY TO BREED BAN ENTHUSIASTS

I'm sorry you are frightened of my dogs and are trying to have them killed because they are pitbulls. I'm sorry you lack the understanding of this breed's true history, gentleness with people, wonderful temperament, intelligence and behavioral conformation. I'm sorry you won't read the ATTS stats regarding our breed's true temperament, putting it in the top four for temperament, scoring better than breeds like Golden Retrievers, and cocker spaniels.

I'm sorry that you side with and protect animal abusers by marking the breed of dog, and not the irresponsibility of the owner. I'm sorry that by your logic I could steal a car, run some people over with it and then you can blame the make of car for the accident, as I walk free.I'm sorry you generalize one breed of dog with one group of people. I'm sorry you can't see the love and determination that many often highly educated, non-criminal and "normal" types of people show towards this breed and the great personal sacrifices that they make to take care of their dog responsibly.

I'm sorry you cannot go into the shelters and see the hundreds of abandoned and abused pitbulls, dying only for the inane "crime" of being born the breed they are. I'm sorry you cannot see the look of disappointment in their eyes as someone walks by their kennel, and refuses to consider adopting them based on an ill educated fear mongering reporter. I'm sorry that you cannot be there when the animal looks at a human for the last time, and in spite of betrayed by all humans they have met, their tail still wags as someone approaches with the syringe of Euthinol.

I'm sorry cannot be there when law enforcement shoots one of your dogs dead inside it's own home in front of the children it mutually loves for simply getting off the dog bed and walking over to say hello with it's tail wagging. I'm sorry you cannot be there to rescue pitbull puppies from a plastic bag in a dumpster, dumped there by someone switching their illegal, and inhumane activities to another, more lucrative breed.

I'm sorry you cannot understand the difference between canine and human aggression, in the way that this breed can. Yes, I'm saying my pitbull is smarter then you.I'm sorry that the medieval witchhunting genetics of intolerance, generalization, and racism make you feel the need to vilify a breed of dog.

I'm sorry that justice, equality, tolerance, common sense are all things you hold dear as a fellow American, and expect from others, but do not yourself offer them towards a pitbull or its caregiver. I'm sorry that you don't take the constructive time to petition changes in the American animal cruelty act, and in the criminal code that would deal out serious punishment to the real animal abusers.

I'm sorry you cannot see the disappointed look on a puppy's face when the people petting it quickly frown, and walk away when you tell them it is a pitbull. I'm sorry you feel the need to terrorize my family and my dogs for crimes we never have and never will commit. I'm sorry you don't have to live in fear of your dog's safety from hysterical, and mentally unstable people trying to inflict all manner of evil upon your dogs.I'm sorry that you cannot see my breed working in some of the best Search and Rescue groups in the world, saving countless lives each year.

I'm sorry our media censors and refuses to print the breed name "pitbull' when in connection with a positive act such as saving a person or child from a burning house, drowning, wild attacking animals, etc. I'm sorry you cannot see the many pitbulls registered as therapy dogs and bringing so much joy to another misunderstood, neglected demographic in our society, the senior citizen. I am sorry you can't see a pitbull kiss a child, step carefully over a kitten, or play in a sunbeam.

I'm sorry you cannot wake in the morning to feel a warm pitbull cuddled next to you in bed, and know that you are their total world, and even if the house caught fire and trapped you, they would stay with you to the end. But, now that I really think about it, I'm not at all sorry you don't own a pitbull--you do not deserve one.
Im Sorry Too
May 13, 2008 9:03 AM
I am sorry too Mr. Pit Bull. You didnt know me before. I used to walk by your house every day. Then one day you decided to attack me and that resulted in my death at age 8. I used to snuggle with my mommy every night at bedtime. I used to be a happy playfull little girl. Now I am up here in heaven, looking down on my family. I cant snuggle with my mommy anymore. And sadly Mr. Pit Bull, you can snuggle with your owner either cause you were disposed of after this happened. I didnt do anything to you Mr. Pit Bull. Why did you have to do this to me?

This goes both ways, but what is more important? A human life or a dogs life?

Stryder
May 13, 2008 9:38 AM
"pit bulls" (no such breed) have been called Nanny Dogs for over a century for their LOVE of children. I have a 2 year old, a 4 year old, and an American Pit Bull Terrier. She loves all the kids in the neighborhood as much as she loves my own. An APBT, AmStaff, Staffy Bull, and the several other breeds called "pit bulls" are bred to have NO HUMAN AGGRESSION. If one of these dogs is showing HA, they have an incorrect temperament and should be put down, and responsible owners do just that.
ANY dog can bite, and most are capable of killing a child. Our dogs are the victims of media induced hysteria. Hundreds of dog bites happen EVERY DAY, but "pit bulls" bites are the only ones that are reported. Stop being skewed by the media, and do some REAL research.
www.pitbull-chat.com
To Im SORRY
May 13, 2008 10:23 AM
TO I'm SORRY= I work in a hospital E.R. and I have have seen first hand just how dangerous these dogs are when they attack. So TAKE YOUR SARCASTIC I'M SORRY APOLOGY AND SHOVE IT.
Jersey
May 13, 2008 10:41 AM
AN ODE TO I'M SORRY

I'm sorry you and many other pit bull owners lack the understanding of this breed's true history and characteristics and therefore continually place them in situations where they hurt other people and their pets and livestock to such a degree that it forces society to ban them away from you.

I’m sorry that you fall to understand that the ATTS stats cannot be used to compare one bred to another as only well trained dogs whose owners pay for them to take the test are actually tested. The stats do not show us how any random dog will act.

I’m sorry that despite the tens of thousands of pit bulls killed in shelters every year, you and many other pit bull owners feel no problem specific to this type of dog exists and therefore does absolutely nothing to stop the killing. I’m sorry that you don’t realize that when shelters are overcrowded with pit bulls, all dogs of all breeds are put to death at a greater rate to make room for the non-stop flow of pit bulls which in many places makes up over 50% of the shelter population.

I’m sorry that you do not understand that races of people have nothing to do with breeds of dogs which have been specifically bred to do certain tasks and therefore have predictable traits. In pit bulls, those traits are dog aggression, attack without warning, and do not let up despite physical pain. To compare minority races with such dogs, or to say pit bull bans equal to the Holocaust, or to say they are smarter than humans, is offensive and irrational to say the least.

I’m sorry that you are not aware of a study that shows that people who own dangerous dogs are more likely to be criminals. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15755870/

I’m sorry that you are not aware that pit bulls are currently being bred for human aggression, specifically for drug protection. And I’m sorry you continue to think that a criminal that is involved with dog fighting, a companion crime to drugs, illegal guns and gang activity, will somehow remove a money-making fighting dog just because it is human aggressive. History tells us that this was never the case and that good fighters were kept and bred no matter how they reacted to humans, and I’m sorry you have not bothered to read about that part of their history, or considered how these dogs and these genetic traits have infiltrated the current pet population.

I’m sorry that you think pit bulls have more rights than people and other dogs, that public safety should come second to them and your own selfish desire to own a genetically aggressive dog. I’m sorry that you are not aware that the courts have said time and time again that banning pit bulls is Constitutional.

I’m sorry that you are also not aware that pit bull owners are terrorizing the victims of their dogs http://www.sunjournal.com/story/264346-3/franklin/woman_sues_pit_bull_owner_others/ and lying in order to impose their will on the public http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120800094.html or that a trained service pit bull can still attack http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/11/25/BAGCR39TMT1.DTL

I’m sorry that you believe in the conspiracy theory that the media is out to get pit bulls. There are positive stories of pit bulls out there, but like other breeds no one is going to write a story about a dog who made it through the day without taking someone’s arm off. Pit bull attacks are not news, they happen all the time, unlike other types of dogs. They also attack and kill their owners, which is why most rational people would never bring such a dog home. http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2007.htm

Amber Smith
May 13, 2008 11:28 AM
First of all, stop being ignorant. You can't ban "all dogs," so don't post a useless comment.

People need to research a breed before they go out spreading rumors that it's an "aggressive" breed.

I work in a grooming salon at Petsmart, and anybody in my salon will stand by that the most aggressive breeds we get in are Miniature Pinschers, Jack Russell Terriers, and Beagles.

In fact, the last dog fight we've gotten in our store was between an Irish Wolfhound and a Cocker Spaniel -- this was over a year ago. We've never had a problem with Pit Bulls in our store.

Actually, one of our managers owns 2 pit bulls. I own a pit bull/lab mix. The only thing she doesn't like is a mean cat.

In New Zealand, Labrador Retrievers are required to be muzzled when they are out on walks. In New Zealand, they are "aggressive breeds". Also in New Zealand, Pit Bulls are treated like how Labs are treated here: with much love and respect.

What people need to do is control the pet owners, because only responsible owners result in good pets.

Also, people need to WATCH their kids. If you notice a stray dog is running around -- (WHETHER OR NOT it is a pit bull, lab, or irish wolfhound for that matter) -- you need to keep your child away. You wouldn't have your kid around a strange human, why allow a strange dog to come near?

Banning breeds is an act of ignorance, and I believe that the focus of the issue needs to go more towards how a canine is RAISED, not the existence of the animal.

(Banning breeds does not solve a problem. Drugs still circulate -- do you enthusiasts believe there won't be disputes about dogs? Get a grip and use your brains. )
Jersey
May 13, 2008 12:04 PM
For Ms. Smith:

"It's all how you raise them!" - NOT!

Some people assume - incorrectly - that a dog's temperament is primarily shaped by how it is raised. You have heard these people say "It's all how you raise them!"

This statement is not only inaccurate, it is unfair to the animal, which, in reality, is influenced primarily by its genetics.

http://www.workingpitbull.com/aboutpits.htm

Think twice next time before you tell people to use their brains, because you have only proved what was said above, that most pit bull owners don't understand their own dogs and that's why we see so many problems with them. It is not a rumor that pit bulls are dog agressive, it is fact. And they are certainly capable of more damage than a beagle or a min pin. In fact, the very company you work for will not allow pit bulls in their Doggie Day Camp. Surely you were aware of this before you posted that aggression was just a rumor.

GW
May 13, 2008 12:13 PM
I agree with the above poster...ban children..I am tired of them growing up to be gangstas and meth heads!

*or is it the way they are raised??*
Mama T
May 13, 2008 12:14 PM
To The Spin and Mike Vick

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BAN MIKE AND GUESS WHAT I CAN ANWSER NO TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
1.) Live in a Trailor. NO, I HAVE A VERY NICE 3 BEDROOM HOME!!!
2.) Favorite vacation spot is the Platte County Fair. I GO TO THE FAIR ONE DAY SO MY SON CAN RIDE THE PONYS AND GO TO THE PETTING BARN, OTHERWISE WE LIKE TO GO CAMPING AT DIFFERENT STATE PARKS EVERY YEAR
3.) Have spent time in jail or have mulitple warrants out for their arrests. NEVER BEEN IN JAIL AND NO WARRANTS EITHER
4.) Smoke at least two packs of ciggs a day while. 1/2 PACK A DAY, THANK YOU
5.) Drinks a 12 pack a day by 5pm. I DRINK MAYBE 5 TIMES A YEAR; MY BIRTHDAY, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, NEWS YEAR, AND A BBQ ONCE OR TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you can answer yes to any of these questions then POINT PROVEN... SO WHAT POINT WAS THAT?????

AND TO SPIN,

EVERYDAY WHEN WE GET OUT OF BED SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM GOING TO BED THAT NIGHT, THAT IS LIFE. I AM NOT CLUELESS OR CLASSLESS JUST A REALIST. ALL I WAS SAYING IS THAT IF THE DOG OWNER IS TAKING PRECAUTIONS THEN WHY CAN'T THE JOHANSEN'S??? I AM NOT SAYING THAT A DOG'S LIFE IS MORE VAULABLE THEN A CHILD, I WOULD BE LOST WITHOUT MY SON BUT EVERY DOG IS DANGEROUS AND TO TARGET ONE OUT CLUELESS FACTS AS YOU ARE, IS WRONG. HERE ARE SOME FACTS FOR YOU FROM THE AMERICAN HUMANE, "These alarming statistics have caused many communities across the country to enact breed-specific legislation that prohibits people from owning some breeds of dogs, such as pit bulls. American Humane understands that any breed of dog can bite, and as such, believes that breed-specific legislation does not effectively protect the community from dangerous animals. Legislation banning particular breeds can unnecessarily discriminate against dogs that are not dangerous, and does little to protect the community from dog bite incidents. Such legislation can often have unintended consequences, such as black market interest, indiscriminant breeding practices, and subsequent overpopulation issues. Additionally, there can be confusion when dealing with "mixed-breed" dogs, which can make legislation difficult to enforce. Therefore, American Humane supports local legislation to protect communities from dangerous animals, but does not advocate laws that target specific breeds of dogs.

The pit bull is a type of dog bred for fighting, not a specific breed. Responsibly bred and owned, the American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier -- often referred to as pit bulls -- are not fighting dogs." THESE BAN'S DO NOT WORK BECAUSE EVERY DOG CAN BE DANGEROUS, NURTURE OVER NATURE!!!!!
Osceola Resident
May 13, 2008 12:51 PM
After reading all of these crazy comments I couldnt help but post my opinion as well.

As a dog owner and a mother of a small child, I know first hand that the breed of the animal doesnt matter in the least. A lab can be just as aggressive as a pit bull, any dog for that matter can be aggressive and attack someone at any given time. I grew up with a poodle who was very aggressive and would bite.

As far as people commenting on living in trailer parks and other immature and stupid comments...grow up! As I said I am a resident of Osceola, I DO NOT live in a trailer park, DO NOT drink or smoke and DO NOT even waste my time going to Columbus to go to the lame Platte County Fair.

I have drove by the Dotson home many times and not once have I ever even seen the dog outside. Until I saw the fence in the yard, I didnt even know they had a dog.

It's too bad that the Johansen's are using a past experience with a differnt breed of dog. That should prove to them, if anybody that any dog can attack.

People need to grow up and post some intelligent comments on this board.
Gesz I hate dumb people
May 13, 2008 1:29 PM
I really hate dumb posters...

Please stop comparing your poodle or jack russell terrier to a pit bull. I have never heard of one of those dogs clamping down on some poor kids neck and having to get pryed off with the handle of a shovel.

They are bred to be killers.... ban them and move on.
A Clue
May 13, 2008 1:56 PM
I like the Lions, Tigers, and Bears comment. If they have not bitten anybody and are raised right then why can't we have them has pets? I bet if you were to look at stats, I bet there are more pit bull attacks in the United States then bear attacks worldwide. You people that are sticking up for this dangerous dog look silly. I think that you are just upset about authority. If you were to look inside yourselves I think you will see this. Anyway you spin it, this is a dangerous dog, plain and simple. Look at the FACTS. MAMA T= don't feel abd because you fit into one of the 5. POINT PROVEN
Any Dog is Dangerous
May 13, 2008 2:18 PM
I'm sorry but any dog can be dangerous. No matter what the size or breed. Those who think that just a few breeds of dogs can bite a child or anybody for that matter is just ignorant.
Bobbie Bain
May 13, 2008 2:31 PM
Just a note here on why you don't see the dog outside...Willie, being a responsible owner, has been keeping Maggie in the house. She goes out to use the bathroom and gets to sit in her kennel for a while then it is back in the house. Like any dog, Maggie needs excercise. She is not allowed to run around in the yard (unsupervised) like other dogs I have seen in that area. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Willie is also a new dad. I think that he is very concerned with the well being of a child since he has one of his own. Maggie is very good with the baby and there are no problems. Now, I have shed some light and given way for even more discussions and probably opened a whole nother can of worms. The fact is that no one really has all the facts so we are all mearly giving our own oppinions. Let's all just be nice about it.
Mama T
May 13, 2008 2:40 PM
Once again the people, including myself, against this ban are the only with stats. You people that are reacting out fear rather then knowledge are the clueless, classless, silly looking ones.
Another FACT, "The American Temperament Testing Society gives the American Pit Bull Terrier breed a "pass" percentage of 84.1%. The average of all breeds is 81.5%.

While friendliness and tolerance towards humans are traits of the breed [4], there are, as in any breed, those that are dangerous toward humans. Many attacks by other dog breeds are misclassified as "Pit Bulls" by media reports."
If you people would quite beliving everything you see on the biasist news and think for yourselves you would know that this dog is NOT any more dangerous then any other dog!!!!!!!!!!
Pitbull Lover
May 13, 2008 3:00 PM
I do not support this ban.
1. I do not live in a trailor. I own a house in columbus.
2. I don't go to the Platte County Fair.
3. I have never been to Jail.
4. I don't smoke.
5. I only drink once in a while.
I own two well behaved pitbulls. I live in the middle of Columbus. So i'm guessing not to far away from a lot of you. How dare you to say I am a low life. I work, pay my taxes, and vote. So it sounds like you can take that stereo type and put it up you're but.

You can see me walking the two of them in the park, and all over town. Don't judge these dogs by the breed. Judge the dog.
Support The Ban
May 13, 2008 3:01 PM
To Amber,

Why should a family have to be watching out for these dogs while they are playing in their own yard? If a dog is going to attack, you really dont have much warning. Maybe a couple seconds before you realize what is happening. Hardly a reasonable request.
dryice
May 13, 2008 3:40 PM
To Osceola resident:

Your opening statement should have read: "After reading all of these crazy comments I couldnt help but post my own crazy comments.

Your "put-down" on Columbus is pointless. But for the record, I've been to the Polk Co Fair in Osceola, and agree you have firsthand knowledge of what constitutes a "lame" county fair. Take your own advice "Grow up and post some intelligent comments on this board.

But back to the subject. You are correct that a poodle can be just as vicious as a pitbull. Most adults, however can pry the locked jaws of a poodle off the neck of an 8-year old.
Mick
May 13, 2008 3:48 PM
Why not the two most mentioned dogs that insurance companies recommend not to own---The pretty pretty Dalmatian or the lovable lab? They are proven to bite MORE times than a pit--I hope most posters on here are not dog owners. They would be the problem then. And spare me people----kids tease dogs also (remember, bet you did too). Quit trying to have the government run all of our lives. Remember, decision making is a right we all still have---for now.
Mama T
May 13, 2008 4:06 PM
TO A CLUE, you are spouting off incorrent things, AGAIN. 19 people on this blog DO NOT agree with the ban. And quit calling me a low life trailer trash because I support logic!!! Your point has not and will not be proven because it is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
M
May 13, 2008 4:14 PM
I am not against the ban per say; I disagree with the fact that a responsible pit bull owner who has owned his dog prior to the passing of this ordinance is not grandfathered in. I own 2 dogs, one of which we have had for the past 12 years. My dogs are just as much a part of my family as my three kids are. To think that Willie Dotson-Monroe is not attached to this dog and can just discard her if this city ordinance is passed is absurd.

To clarify, I am not sticking up for the breed in general, but specifically Maggie. She has not proven to be dangerous or a threat to anyone. I have no reason to believe that Willie will not continue to be a responsible owner and has nothing but a complete understanding of his dog and the breed of dog that she is.

To be blunt and to the point, I do not wish to see Maggie casted out of Osceola for being a pit bull, and to avoid any confusion, I do not meet any of Mr. Vick’s so called “PROVEN POINTS”.
Kayla
May 13, 2008 4:35 PM
I just want to make a comment, I rescued my german shepard mix from the Platte County dog pound, and I don't know how old she was when i got her.

She acts differently around bigger dogs then she does with my 5lb. Yorkie. They play rough but Lisa (GS) knows that when Chevy yelps out a cry she backs off and calms down.

I try my best to control her but there is only so much i can do to make up for the time that i think she was abused. She is a loving dog, but say someone is on the other side of my fence she acts as though she would attack (defence mode), but say you were on my side of the fence she would want to play. She is a great dog yes maybe im partial, but if you aren't a dog owner and don't know anything about them please don't underestimate what others are saying. Bc that is what you are doing. Every dog is different!!!! That includes Pit's too!!

Ive been around one Pit Bull, and it was a month ago that I met her and she is the sweetiest dog you will ever meet and the owner has a 5 year old daughter. Its what the dogs temperment is like and how it is brought up.


So you never know what a dog will do!!! IT HAPPENS!!I understand what Osceola is trying to do but I find it hard to believe if there is only one in town to make such a fuss. Make the neighbors get a privacy fence or something, there has to be another way to go about this.
KC KS Kills Dogs
May 13, 2008 4:57 PM
For all the supporters of breed bans I want you to walk in the shoes of the innocent people you are about to victimize and criminalize.

Suddenly law abiding citizens, who do not have criminal backgrounds fall victim to over zealous Animal Control officers, police officers, and neighbors who claim they know what a pit bull or a masatiff or any other mutt is. All your neighbors become breed ID experts.

Warrantless search and seizures take place, dog owners are deprived of their property based on what someone thinks their dog is.

Criminal charges are brought against innocent dog owners, they have to go to court, they have fines levied against them and in some cases serve jail time. Not because of their dog's behavior, but what the public perceives their dog to be.

In many cities passing this flawed legislation citizens are forced to sign a confession to get their beloved dog out of the city pound and sign their dog over to another owner outside the city. How Constitutional is that?

In any other type of crime, misdemeanor or felony, the accused is considered innocent until proven guilty by the city. With this type of ordinance it's exactly the opposite - the accused has to prove their dog is not one of the accused breeds.

For all those supporters of breed bans -when the government takes away your rights (how you raise your children, what car you can drive, where you can live, etc.) I won't be there to help you; you will have sowed what you reap.
Kool Aide
May 13, 2008 6:37 PM
TO MAMA T AND OTHERS= Until you have worked in a hospital ER and seen the victims of pit bull attacks then you have no right to say that these dogs are not dangerous. You, Mama T are wrong and maybe should volunteer your time some weekend in a hospital E.R in any city and see how dangerous these dogs are. For those who spin this as the government taking away your rights, I feel sorry for your petty little life and may God help you.
Jersey
May 13, 2008 9:39 PM
So Kayla has met ONE pit bull a month ago and wants us all to believe that because of her interactions with this ONE nice pit bull, that all pit bulls will act how they are raised. She has not bothered to look into it any more than that. She is not aware that Diane Jessup who has worked with and bred pit bull for 23 years tells us:

Some people assume - incorrectly - that a dog's temperament is primarily shaped by how it is raised. You have heard these people say "It's all how you raise them!" This statement is not only inaccurate, it is unfair to the animal, which, in reality, is influenced primarily by its genetics.


But I will agree with M - people who have followed the law should be grandfathered in. Unless they have been living under a rock, they should know that pit bulls have been facing legislation for years, and they accepted that risk when they chose the dog, so I can understand not grandfathering. But I would allow all currently registered dogs to stay as long as they did not cause a problem. I think that is fair to everyone.
Farmer J
May 14, 2008 2:48 AM
I agree with banning all dogs. Dogs are nothing but a nuisance. People who would own such an animal are either mentally ill or have a really low IQ.

Ban all dogs!
Osceola Resident
May 14, 2008 12:40 PM
To dryice- Your comments regarding the Polk County fair are pointless, because I know our fair is lame. So, try again...

Any dog can bite and the larger breeds are just as strong as a pit bull.

Mel
May 15, 2008 2:22 PM
Trigger, your comment is very ignorant. Maybe they should ban all ignorant people and then we wouldn't have a problem with dogs. Give me a break . . .
S
May 15, 2008 2:49 PM
I think this just shows the ignorance of people who have nothing better to do but find reasons as to why they shouldn't watch their children. Children/people are more at risk from getting hurt by any number of people/circumstances than the dog across the street...especially a dog that has given them no reason to believe it is "vicious". MEDIA is the only enemy to a supposed "vicious" dog-breed. You never hear about a yellow labrodor that bit someone .... which according to statistics is more likely to happen than with a pit bull.
Jennifer S
May 15, 2008 3:28 PM
Those of you that think that Breed Bans work are ignorant to the outcomes. The only thing breed bans do is give a community a false sense of security and cause a lot of innocent dogs to be euthanized for no reason. Check your facts. There isn't a city that has imposed breed bans that can say their bite statistics decreased.
The most effective dangerous dog laws are those that place the legal responsibility for a dog's actions on the owner rather than on the dog. The best laws hold the owner accountable for the bite victim's pain and suffering, and mandate certain corrective actions such as spay/neuter and proper confinement of the dog. For more information on legislation that will effectively reduce dog bites in you should contact The HSUS.

Don't let the media educate you on dog breeds. They want to sensationalize thier stories and the fact is if a Lab bites someone it's not as news worthy than if a Pit Bull bites someone. It doesn't mean Lab bites happen less, the news just doesn't report it.

The next time you hear about a dog biting someone don't look at the dog or the breed but look at the owner and ask yourself, is that a responsible dog owner and could this have been prevented?
MichelleD
May 15, 2008 3:40 PM
For those fighting this ridiculous waste of resources and tax payer dollars, please contact info@KCDogAdvocates.org and we can supply you with additional information. We have successfully fought off, and gotten breed bans repealed in many cities.

For those that think pit bull bans are the answer: They have failed in 100% of the communities that implemented them.

Thank you,
MichelleD
www.KCDogAdvocates.org
JUST STOP
May 15, 2008 5:22 PM
Again until you have worked in a hospital ER and seen first hand what these dogs do to people and children stop telling me they are not dangerous. JUST STOP, please get a life and volunteer your time to something that makes a difference. When you put a dogs life in front of a childs, you are sick, just sick. Don't tell me media is the one when I have seen upfront what these dogs do. Stop generalization that people are stupid and influenced by the media. Sick just Sick
This is Silly
May 15, 2008 8:38 PM
I cannot understand the way some people think. Yes all dogs can be dangerous, but if a min pin reacts to something and bites you it is possible to get away or at least slap it away. Please sombody tell me how do you get away from an attacking pitbull (maybe "Sorry" has the answer). My wife and I use to have a well trained dalmation we kept a close eye on it and never had a problem untill we had a child. Our dog of 8 years never bit or showed aggression to anybody and even was a regular visitor at a nursing home but the dog (a member of the family) took issue with our little girl. My wife asked a Dog behaviorist to come in and give us an assessment of the dog, I was against this but I support my wifes requests. We were told we had a problem because the dog was having issues with a new addition in the home. The decision was easy dogs are dogs and they will act on instinct unlike most people who will think about their actions and can make reasonable decisions. If you are going to own a dog I dont care if it's a dalmation a pitbull or a min pin you need to be a responsible owner, this also means having a responsibility to your community. Having to say I never thought my dog could do that just doesnt cut it when someone is mauled. Owning a pitbull is like the Jack's Link's commericals "messing with sasquach" it's just a matter of time untill you get your butt kicked. Wise up, I had to take our dog in because it could be a threat to my family or someone eles's family. Sack up and do the right thing before that time bomb in your house blows up.
JUST STOP
May 15, 2008 9:14 PM
I have to say that "Just Silly" has the post that makes the most sense out of all. These are animals and no matter how you raise them, they always act on their natural instincts. Thanks for the good post.
Pit Bull Mom
May 16, 2008 7:59 AM
Mike Vick:

It saddens me there are people as ignorant as you out there. I certainly hope you aren't pro-creating. Allow me to advise you of the facts of many pitbull owners: (me included)

1) Bachelors or Masters degree
2) Full set of teeth
3) Do not smoke
4) Do not drink alcohol
5) Career (not at gas station, no offense to you)
6) Homes that don't have wheels

I'm empathize with you, that you aren't educated enough to form your own opinions or - actually research this topic for yourself. I have been involved in animal rescue for 16 years and in that time I have come across fewer aggressive pitbulls than any other breed. I find it ironic that you have helped prove my point - there are more ignorant people out there than aggressive dogs.

Yes, there are aggressive pitbulls out there - just as there are aggressive poodles and pomeranians. It is the people who abuse, neglect, harm, starve, and force their dog to live on a tow-chain for their entire life, those people are to blame for aggressive behavior in any dog.

Allow me to provide you with some websites so when you learn to read you can research the statistics on your own:

www.atts.org

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_and_events/hardworking_pit_bulls.html

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400908&in_page_id=1770

http://dogsinthenews.com/stories/070301a.php
SAD
May 16, 2008 10:01 AM
Again it is just sad and sick that people waste the time and energy defending these dogs. To PIT BULL MOM, you may not be any of the things listed, but you do show your true educational level by sticking up for these dogs. Sad just Sad. Again work in a hospital E.R. and see the damage these dogs do to small children. You can list all the websites you want, but until you see the damage that these dogs do up close, you Pit Bull MoM are the one that is uneducated and the one that has a closed mind. WAKE UP.
FUNNY
May 16, 2008 10:05 AM
Funny how people post that others are uneducated and can't think for themselves, but then Dog Mom thinks she knows all because she lists internet links that back her beliefs. How about thinking for yourself and forming you own opinion. Talk about uneducated. What is scary is this lady is raising dangerous dogs.
Shawna
May 16, 2008 11:53 AM
The town of Osceola needs to realize that the world extends beyond their borders. This debate has moved passed the issue of Maggie’s breed. Small town America is notorious for singling out certain people. Osceola is no different. Even in these blogs, the stereotypes are not hidden. I will explain further: If you have the right last name, the world stops fro you in this town. Even crimes and MIPs are overlooked. It is my understanding that Willie has complied with EVERY request that was made of him. But, that was not enough….he does not have the right last name. Now the goal of the elites in Osceola is to change the law that was in place in order to cater to their desired outcome.
To help me prove my point – let me tell you this: There are six breeds that are listed on the ‘most vicious’ list that do not show up on this new ordinance proposed by the city. I wonder what fine citizen might own these dogs. Someone who is protected by their name, I’m sure. To those people….the world is a lot bigger than you—get over yourself.

Signed,
Non-smoking, educated homeowner (with all my teeth).

As for 'Sad'....we all know now that you work in the E.R. Get over it. I have friends and family who also work in the E.R. and throughout various hospitals who are against this ban. If you don't have anything new to add...stop adding. thanks.
brent
May 16, 2008 12:02 PM
To Sad,

You think its sad that people waste their time defending these dogs. It's just interesting that every organization that has an expertise in the field of animals and animal laws supports these types of dogs and notes that attacks are not a breed-specific problem. The AVMA, HSUS, ASPCA, National Association of Animal Control Officers, American Dog Trainers Association, AKC, UKC, etc, all oppose the type of breed specific legislation that many here support. I find it fascinating that so many people think they know so much about this topic, and yet disagree with with the very people who know the most about canines, canine behavior, and what laws work and don't work. It's sad that we live in an age where uneducated opinions seem to count for as much as the very well educated ones...
S
May 16, 2008 12:12 PM
I am sorry, I didn't know working in an ER made you an expert on pit bulls. That is what is truly sad. I challenge you to walk into any dog shelter in your city/state and tell me that when you look into their eyes that you only see a killer. How about the hundreds of thousands of pb's that are fought every year? You can still see the scars on their face, a missing piece of an ear and the fur missing from their neck left by an embedded chain and all they want to do is cuddle and receive love like every dog needs, wants and deserves. You have only seen the bad instances that have formed your opinions (also keep in mind how are we to know that another breed that is often mistaken for a pit bull, did not attack the people that you see in the ER). Now the ball is in your court to form an educated opinion based off of your personal experience OUTSIDE of the ER.
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