Supporters back skate park

By Adrian Sanchez asanchez@columbustelegram.com
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 05:15:45 pm CDT

COLUMBUS -- Skate park supporters, young and old, attended Tuesday’s public meeting to convince the city to relocate, rather than remove, the current facility at Gerrard Park.

More than 40 people attended the meeting to discuss with city officials their plans for the skate park and what they must do to keep one in Columbus.

A joint effort by the city and Columbus Public Schools to renovate the six tennis courts at Gerrard Park is the reason for the consideration of either permanently removing or relocating the skate park.

The renovation is part of an effort to provide tournament competition-quality courts at Pawnee Park and Gerrard to create more opportunities for Columbus High School boys and girls tennis teams to host tournaments.

City Administrator Joseph Mangiamelli said the only criteria for the city to invest an estimated $20,000-$25,000 for a new concrete pad is that those who use the skate park will wear protective equipment, obey the established rules and be considerate of others in and around the skate park, which includes monitoring noise levels and using appropriate language.

According to state statute, the Nebraska Legislature’s inclusion of municipalities under Nebraska’s Recreation Liability Act requires the city to take every precaution to minimize potential harm, Mangiamelli said, which includes wearing protective helmets. The city will seek clarification if the Unicameral’s intent also was to include pads as part of the requirement.

The current skate park was opened nearly six years ago after a two-year campaign from the now inactive Columbus Extreme Sports Association with a contribution of $30,000 by the city.

Greg Schaefer, former president of the association, said he would like to see the park relocated but was skeptical a liability agreement with the city would be upheld despite the expressed intent for compliance stated by the 30 youth in attendance.

“I’ve heard this story before, boys. It lasted one month,” Schaefer said of the youth wearing helmets, picking up trash and maintaining the park.

He said the pervious agreement with the city was upheld for a month or two, but was subsequently violated to the extent the association decided to temporarily close it in October 2003 for repeated violations.

The association use to monitor the park’s use when it first opened, but more than two years ago participation dwindled and frustrations arose as some “bad apples,” according to Schaefer, began to abuse the privilege of the park.

“You individuals are going to have to self-police yourselves,” he said, “(otherwise) you guys might lose your park because of it.”

Mangiamelli said he was encouraged by the turnout and response from those at the meeting, but the ones who are involved are not likely to be the ones creating the problems.

“We will probably never get their attention,” he said, but those who are expressing support “are the people who will hopefully help us gain order and maintain compliance.”

Brian Brownlow, president of the Columbus Softball Association, said he supported Columbus having a skate park, but due to problems, including vandalism to his organization, is opposed to it being relocated in Gerrard Park.

When the skate park was initially opened it was monitored and maintained appropriately, Brownlow said, “(then) slowly but surely supervision was lost, and a couple bad apples ruined the barrel.”

A recent example, he said, was a “potential skateboarder who drove a car through the fence (of the skate park). That is the type of thing we are worried about.”

When Property Superintendent Mark Kudron said the intent for the relocation is to not include a fence around the facility, a few parents objected, citing concerns about children’s safety as they may wander onto the pad and become injured by someone skating.

Schaefer said the burden should not be placed on the city to provide for the park, but rather the parents and kids themselves should meet their own needs through fundraisers and active participation.

“The more burden we put on the city, the less help we are going to receive,” he said, adding that the city has been more than generous for providing the land and money to install the concrete.

Mangiamelli said the city understands if the park is not relocated, it may create problems through the rest of the city.

“We understand if we don’t provide a space it will be every other place,” he said, but that does not override the fact that the city must minimize it liability and establish rules to prevent nuisances.

With the city’s current plan to rehabilitate the tennis courts, the skate park is expected to be closed in June, he said, and, if the city chooses to relocate, it could be reopen in a matter of months.

“The skate park will be out of commission for a period,” Mangiamelli said, although he could not give an exact window.

The city administrator will give his recommendation to the City Council, which will then make its own decision on the issue.

Schaefer said it is now up to the users and their parents to keep this project aloft, and hopefully this will be enough of a wake up call to make sure the facility is used responsibly now and in the future.

“Self-policing is the easiest way to take care of the park,” he said. “It isn’t dead yet, but if you guys continue to abuse it, it is going to die. It’s your park.”

For those who want to get involved, the Columbus Extreme Sports Association will meet 7 p.m. May 8 at the Columbus Public Library to discuss how to proceed.

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tiny tim
Apr 30, 2008 12:59 PM
I love the title: Supporters back skate park. I would hope if they are supporters that they would be "backing" the skate park.

I'm a former resident, and I haven't been completely up to date on everything. Is midget football still played at Glur Park? I had thought that those games were to be moved to Bradshaw Park when it initially opened. If that's the case, the football field at Glur Park might be a good spot for the skate park relocation. It's a little more centrally located, closer to the middle school and high school, and it has a nice network or roads in the area.
Do you REALLY want it
Apr 30, 2008 1:22 PM
To the supporters of the skate park: I think what seems to be missing here is your not understanding the old adage that with privilege comes responsibility. If you want everyone to invest time and money to provide you with a fancy skate park, then step up and do your part in taking care of it and wearing the appropriate safety gear so the city(taxpayers) is not held responsible for your injuries. Skaters, the ball is in your court. If you want it, show it by getting involved with its planning and upkeep. The meeting is May 8th at 7 p.m. at the library.
Doc
Apr 30, 2008 1:50 PM
Greg said it all. The "bad apples" aka hoodlums ruined it for the good kids that attended the meeting last night. Give these good kids a concrete pad and place the equipment there. Extreme Sports has some money left to add to the park. This time however, put it in one of the neighborhood park where these bikers & skaters can more or less have this spot to themselves. I hope the good kids along with the help of their parents can make this fly. Greg did a good job of explaining how quickly this can turn bad. I hope you all listened and will make a LONG term commitment to this. Keep the HOODLUMS out!
GW
Apr 30, 2008 2:19 PM
THANK YOU to our youth that attended (30 according to the article)! ITs great that you are passionate about this and you are learning just how the politics work! Stand up for what you believe in and don't let the blue hairs of this community let you believe that you are anything but the future! I am indeed a supporter of keeping the skate park and I think this might have been the wake up call that some needed, there are a few bad seeds, nobody said there wern't...but I think the good outweigh the bad in this case! These kids need an outlet and this is so much more healthier than sitting in front of a TV playing video games!!!!
GW
Apr 30, 2008 3:13 PM
BTW...how many tennis supporters showed up..my guess is none...This whole bit that the skate park needs to be removed to make room for more courts is just an excuse! Don't believe it for a minute..if it was such an issue there is plenty land at pawnee park!
Columbus Alumni
Apr 30, 2008 7:38 PM
Skateboarding is skateboarding, don't confuse riding a board with vandalism.

Skateboarding does not discriminate, every race skates. Not only bad people ride, good people ride too. It's not only guys riding, girls ride skateboards too. Why is this sport trying to be suppressed in Columbus while some obvious rule breakers are the root of the cause?

The administration is treating these skaters like they're their own children. like...'I'll take away your toys until you start acting how I want you to. Wear your helmet, Quit cussing!'

And what is happening to the existing $30,000 worth of ramps, payed for with Columbus tax $. Are they just going to lock them up somewhere?

Please don't force the police be the helmet police. Let them worry about real crime. To be fair, if they're going to enforce helmets at the skate park, they'd better enforce it for any football games in public parks too.

You want to speak about insurance risk, think about all the skaters that use the park that are now going to migrate to skate spots all over town. You just don't stop skateboarding because you remove 3 ramps from a tennis court. Now businesses and private property owners are going to be more at risk.

Skaters are not going away, there will be a new generation come up as soon as this generation graduates and moves away from Columbus.

The Solution:
1. Plan a seemless transition to a new improved skate park.
2. Use some of OUR tax dollars and pour a concrete skate park within a Columbus park.
a. Provide water fountains and trash cans.
b. Plenty of parking
c. Skateboarding is loud so build it a good distance from homes.(Like Pawnee Park)

The park should be accessible to those without driver's licenses.

Skateboarding isn't going away. Even if 3 ramps are.
Brian
Apr 30, 2008 11:22 PM
June 21 Is Go Skateboarding Day.

Take to the streets since the skate park will be gone.
Robby
May 1, 2008 9:03 AM
Tennis is not as popular as they want you to think! I see more people playing basketball then tennis. Here is the best idea yet : make an INDOOR skate park where someone is always on hand when it's open which would get more year round use & in force the helmet rule. There is plenty of open buildings old family thrift would be a great one just pay the lease I'm sure the kids would be more then happy to build their own ramps. THINK INSIDE !!
Tony Correa
May 1, 2008 9:08 AM
If policing the park is such a problem, is it possible for the city to install cameras there? This would not only show who the "bad apples" are but also help see if any child predators might be lirking. An incident a few months ago at the skate park in Council Bluffs, IA shows that these type of criminals like to hang around areas like this.
fty
May 1, 2008 10:23 AM
whats the point they dont need the skate park
Klem
May 1, 2008 11:03 AM
What about the YMCA?
GW
May 1, 2008 11:23 AM
Good point about the tennis not being as popular as you think..go by glur park, they never have the net up due to people playing basketball and soccer in there, yes, soccer! BTW..sneakers had to reorder helmets, they are selling that quick!
Smarty Jones
May 1, 2008 1:18 PM
Yes great idea Robby should of been brought up sooner . Indoor would be much better I don't care if they charge a small daily, weekly, monthly or yearly fee it would soooooooooo be worth it needs to be looked in to!!
Brian
May 1, 2008 1:22 PM
It becomes hard to respect authority when the authority punishes all skateboarders for the action of a few. Skateboarders in Columbus are being discriminated against.

The eventual confrontations with police as a result of not having a skate park all summer with further resentment among the youth. It will take years before these kids and young adults will respect the City Council and the parks department.

Taking away these ramps that have been paid for with Columbus tax money is just wrong and will cause more problems than it solves.
Brian
May 1, 2008 2:34 PM
The city may have sent out bids for a new skate park, but who did they send bids to? Any REAL skate park developers or just playground ramp builders?

How about one of these companies. These guys build real skateparks.
http://www.dreamlandskateparks.com/
http://grindline.com
http://www.teampain.com/flash/
http://www.skateparks.com/

dryice
May 2, 2008 9:43 AM
Tiny Tim, Glur park would not be as secure a location as Pawnee Park, which at least gets locked up every night. That may deter some of the vandalism.
justin
May 2, 2008 10:50 AM
i think that it is a good idea to make a new skatepark and make rules in which the skaters should follow and along with Tone Correa they should install cameras to catch the bad kids
Doc
May 2, 2008 12:40 PM
hanover Square...count on it.
phil burcher
May 2, 2008 5:19 PM
So when kids swear and leave trash at a basketball court or a baseball field do they risk losing the privledge of using those facilities? No! Why the double standard? Why do skateboarders have to comply with requirements beyond what other sports participants have to endure. Someone please stand up and tell the city of Columbus they aren't going to put up with the gov't(your gov't) acting like an out of control parent. I hope this makes someone mad because I know I am. Phil
justin
May 8, 2008 11:45 AM
I just want to know if there is going to be a new skate park or not.
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