CPS has plan if ICE makes raid

By Adrian Sanchez asanchez@columbustelegram.com
Friday, Jan 18, 2008 - 11:46:49 am CST

COLUMBUS -- The Columbus Public Schools response plan in the case of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) deportation or detainment of a student’s parents was unveiled at the district’s Hispanic Advisory committee meeting Thursday.

The plan, released by Superintendent Paul Hillyer, was created by the school district staff to aid in a student’s transition and make sure he or she has a place to go.

“This process is in case ICE had a raid at one of our (area) plants,” Hillyer said.

He said a local raid is not anticipated, and the last raid was more than 10 years ago, but the district wants to be prepared should such an incident happen.

According to the plan, once the district has been notified, either by ICE or some other source, that a raid has occurred, staff would work to verify such an event had occurred before implementing the plan.

Once the information was verified, the superintendent would activate the Crisis Management Team. The administrative assistants will notify the principals at each school, who would then activate the building level teams.

Each team would activate the plan for identifying students of affected families, call the emergency numbers of students considered at risk and try to find an emergency contact for each student in case their parents are deported or detained.

If power of attorney has not been given to the emergency contact, the parents will be given power of attorney papers to fill out.

Hillyer said, “at the end of the day, at each site, we will check for students who didn’t have a place to go and make sure they have some place to go for the night.”

So other local resources are called as needed to help secure homes and shelters for stranded children, according to the plan, and the district will provide counselors for kids who are frightened.

Nebraska Health and Human Services will be used as a last resort, Hillyer said, for any students not picked up by a parent or emergency contact.

“Our goal is to make sure the kids have a place to stay,” he said, “(and) their education can go on without a hitch.”

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don j
Jan 18, 2008 1:17 PM
THE ONLY PLACE FOR THEM TO GO LEGALLY IS BACK TO MEXICO.
jl
Jan 18, 2008 1:41 PM
Don, most likely because of our immoral immigration laws, most of the kids of the illegals that this would involve are citizens as they were born here--what do you do then? I'm not saying it's right, but the kids have every right to stay here if thats the case and they need someplace to go with someone taking care of them.
jo
Jan 18, 2008 3:48 PM
that is why they have families.. in mexico to take care of them
rrrrr
Jan 18, 2008 4:17 PM
I think that students themselves should be required to show that at least they are citizens BEFORE they are able to use our schools. Maybe if they did need to show this, we wouldn't need to build another school and pay taxes for kids and parents who are not even citizens to use our schools! If the kids are citizens then great - lets build a new school. As of their parents send them back. Let the child pick where they would like to go.
I can't believe it has been 10 years since they last did this....It should be done at LEAST once a month!
jj
Jan 18, 2008 4:26 PM
Maybe the first immigration law that needs to be changed is that one-I propose that if a child is born in this country to parents who are not legal, then neither is the child. As of right now, they do have every right to stay, however, it only serves to complicate the issue and stress our already over extended social service system. We don't need any more kids to try to place in foster care. We have plenty of those already.
Jerry R.
Jan 18, 2008 7:36 PM
Once again the anti-America Columbus Public School officials are more concerned with their illegal agenda helping and abetting illegal criminal aliens. Make sure there is not pain or consequence to their illegal criminal acts. Make any excuse ("What about the children") to cover their subversive actions. I do not need nor want my tax dollars easing the illegals concerns. Why are public employees working against the laws of the land ???
kitty
Jan 18, 2008 8:00 PM
When this country is finally fed up with Mexican gangs and supplying every kind of taxpayer-funded service to illegals, poor Mr. Hillyer won't have to worry about taking care of kids from other countries. Hopefully, our do-nothing government will then deport the illegals and all their kids with them. Don't we have enough trouble with our own gangs, crooks, drunks, killers and rapists without importing more from Mexico? The children are innocent, but they should never have been made automatic citizens if they are born here. They belong with their own parents (in Mexico).
Iagreewithrrrrrr
Jan 18, 2008 8:35 PM
rrr you are right! I don't want to build another school for children who are not even citizens. I'm sick of paying to educate children who are not citizens. Did you ever stop to think these children will wind up making more money then ours because they will be bilingual? Yeah, and we are paying for it! I'm wondering what others think about this!
CPS Employee
Jan 18, 2008 8:44 PM
Jerry,

How sad it must be to live everyday with that much hatred for others in your heart. One of the reasons CPS employees are some of the best in the nation is because we serve OUR nation to the best of our ability by caring for and treating ALL individuals as human beings. Illegal or not, our job REQUIRES us to look past that and serve all. Isn't that what God would want?
Mike
Jan 18, 2008 9:12 PM
If the parents came here legally, you wouldn't have to worry about what to do with the children. If the parents cared they wouldn't put their children through having to worry about ICE. We don't owe them and education.
Tami
Jan 18, 2008 9:36 PM
If the parents came here legally, you wouldn't have to worry about what to do with the children. If the parents cared they wouldn't put their children through having to worry about ICE. We don't owe them and education.
Bill
Jan 18, 2008 11:02 PM
What is CPS doing for the "at risk" white students ?
Tired
Jan 19, 2008 1:52 AM
O.K. I don't blame anybody for wanting to live here. Other than the traffic, it's an alright place. But, for Goodness sake, do it legally. We don't owe anybody, other than our forefathers and the natives, anything. But, "they" (the illegals) owe US taxes and common courtesy. If I have a fender bender, I am held responsible. If an Illegal has a fender bender, they get a slap on the wrist and 48 hours to change their name. Hey ICE.....Ship out all illegal generations.
anon
Jan 19, 2008 2:43 AM
Open borders is underrated. Let the revenue positive, nonsecurity-risk immigrants stay!
Schuylerite
Jan 19, 2008 6:12 AM
You think you got problems in Columbus, be glad you dont live in Schuyler. We now have to build a new school because of the influx of Hispanics. Cargil should be the one building and education their next generation of workers not the taxpayers in Schuyler the majority of whom do NOT even have children of school age.
what a country we live in!
rob g
Jan 19, 2008 7:34 AM
Mike and Tammi, You guys could be long lost identical twins! The fact is that unless the law gets changed any kid born here is a US citizen. Good job to the school for thinking ahead!
Just average
Jan 19, 2008 8:57 AM
It has been 10 years since the last raid? This is the problem, 10 years, the word has gotten out that these companies hire illegals and nothing is ever done. Please come to Eastern Nebraska, the safe haven for illegals. What a joke. The problem have I have said before falls on the big companies that hire illegals.
A BAD JOKE
Jan 19, 2008 9:03 AM
10 years since the last raid. Being in the United States illegally is a crime. What if there were a bunch of "white or black" criminals working in one large plant, How long do you think it would take law enforcment to raid this place? I say maybe 2 days tops. My point is that the large companies and the illegals are protected by the government. Please write your congressman for change.
Jerry R.
Jan 19, 2008 9:18 AM
To CPS Employe: It is your lawful duty to comply with the law. Hiding, abetting, obfuscating illegal alien criminals is an act of subversion. So! I am advocating law abiding actions, and I am a hateful person ?? Using a personal attack to camouflage your lack of facts is weak. A bleating heart liberal response is not a reason to disobey the law. An appeal to God to cover your wrong doing is equal flim flam. God clearly says in the Bible "Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities". Perhaps you are referring the man-made god of your mind. You are not a law unto yourself nor your liberal agenda. You use excuses to cover yourself and hide your activity because you know what you are doing can not be publicly defended. Read the overwhelming opposition by others to your activity in the comments to this article. To add injury to insult you want to use other peoples tax monies to advance your illegal acts. If there are good people at CPS, they are being used in this illegal criminal agenda. BTW, LOVE IS obeying the law as it is the only civil agreement between your and I. Since you continue to disobey the law, you are indeed, the enemies of the USA. The CPS is an active agent hiding illegal-criminal-aliens for several years. I doubt it will change until a thorough house cleaning occurs and the tax trough is taken away. Free homeschooling provides triple the education for zero tax dollars. Admit the truth, shown by the CAPS in your post, liberal arrogance demands you know best for everyone else. And thank Adrian Sanchez for the free publicity.
Ed
Jan 19, 2008 9:29 AM
Even if they're illegal ????
John
Jan 19, 2008 11:16 AM
Please everyone write your mayor and congressman. Call the plants themselves and ask about there hiring practices, let them know that we want change. We want ICE to come into eastern Nebraska and clean up the problem, any other race that breaks the law is held accountable. Coming into this country and not the legal way is a crime. WE the people are the only ones who can make changes. Power by numbers sparks change.
sandra
Jan 19, 2008 12:20 PM
Why would u assume they r all from Mexico?? There are other countries that they could b from. Ur cold hearted these are kids we are talking about trying to get a better education.
Angela
Jan 19, 2008 1:10 PM
WHAT! Adrian covered this story??? HA! I just wanted to be one to point that out! Anyway, I agree with John. Posting comments here, although feels like your doing something, is doing nothing...Make the calls!!!! There is something to be said for power in numbers...let them know we are fed up with this financial burden that falls on the legal taxpayers...WE are the ones held accountable..not the criminals!!!
das
Jan 19, 2008 2:11 PM
American citizens have a right to a quality education. Non citizens should not be given a free ride at the expense of the citizens of this country. Two illegals should not equal one legal citizen, that is patently wrong. If the illegals are sent home, the child is part of the package. This may seem harsh to some, but using the ability to breed to bleed government systems should be a separate offense of it's own.
amazing
Jan 19, 2008 2:47 PM
CPS employee,

They chased God from the schools years ago making a weak argument for you wanting what he thinks is best in our schools. This too was done by the minority of folks against the presence of God in our school. Just as a minority of folks think we should include illegal immigrants into our schools.
Legally
Jan 19, 2008 3:45 PM
It is shocking that the CPS goes out of their way to accomodate illegals. The entire school board and any other person employed by the school system who look the other way when laws are being broken should be fired and/or legally held to answer for their actions. Blatantly ignoring the laws of this land would get most of us a prison sentence, Why is a school board allowed to get away with this? It is time for the people of Columbus, the people of Nebraska, and the people of the U. S., those that are legal citizens with a right to be here, stand up to the school boards, the employers who hire illegals, the landlords to who rent to illegals, the police departments, the lawyers, the politicians and every other law breaker involved. If we as the common citizen do not take a stand and do what we must to save our country against the invasion then do we have any right to complain? Our silence means we are no better than all the law breakers already up to their necks in wrongdoing. If any politician doesn't have the wherewithall to take a stand, make this public and vote him out. We must take back our country; if not us, then who will do it? I am fed up with the spreading like a morbid cancer into every corner of our lives. Look at Schuyler. That is what is happening to every town. I don't remember a time when the Columbus School Board was so eager to help a student in trouble or go to so much trouble for any other group of people. But they are like every other entity who bend over and grab the ankles for every illegal alien...they make money from it. They are selling their souls and the soul of our country to an illegal for a few dollars. You should all be so proud!!
martinez carmelita
Jan 19, 2008 4:14 PM
We are and were here before the the white people,and we'll still be here years to come.Because mexicans and latinos work thier asses off to build the economey,jobs that most americans won't do,VIVA LA RAZA Mexicano's and latino's
Citizen&parent
Jan 19, 2008 4:23 PM
Once again, I am amazed by the mean spirit of so many of your comments. I commend the school system for putting a plan in place. After all, the plan is to make sure the CHILDREN have a SAFE place to stay if they are separated from their parents. I understand this to be for emergency immediate, short-term care. The legal issues and long term child custody can be dealt with subsequently, and most certainly would take a great deal more time (most legal issues do!). In the raids that have taken place in Omaha and Grand Island, the adults have been incarcerated immediately and deported within a matter of a few days. What happens to the kids, who may not be old enough to understand or know where their parents are going? Please think about it from a parent's viewpoint--if you were suddenly taken away (for whatever reason), wouldn't you want someone to make sure your kids were cared for until arrangements could be made??? It would be illegal (neglectful) and unethical not to have a plan in place. Again, I commend CPS officials for their foresight and compassion.
a school employee
Jan 19, 2008 5:33 PM
This article is showing concern for the children who ARE legal (like it or not!) Having seen situations like this, first hand, it is extremely disheartening to watch the faces of those children who are affected by their parents' bad decision to come here illegally. I absolutely do not agree with any person entering the United States illegally, however, Good Job CPS on planning for the future!

To Schuylerite: You may recall, Cargill DID donate a large sum of money and the taxpayers of Schuyler ARE NOT going to see any increases in their taxes.
Disgusted Again
Jan 19, 2008 6:27 PM
Once again I am appalled at the racist comments made by ignorant citizens of our city. It is no wonder that the Hispanic population has an extreme dislike for whites in this town. You lump every immigrant into a "criminal" stereotype (gangs, rapist, murders, etc.) There are many Hispanic people who are here legally, and the children of illegal immigrants and born here are here legally also. GET OVER IT! Just because you were lucky enough to be born white and an American does not make your racist comments OK. By the way there are many more white students in our schools than Hispanics, so quit trying to blame them for the need for new schools. I applaud Dr. Hillyer for having a plan in place to ensure the safety and education of all children in our fine school district.

P.S. Not every immigrant is from Mexico.
born in the usa
Jan 19, 2008 6:47 PM
How about taking a page out of Oklahoma laws. If you are illigal you are not allowed in there state. The law is called 1804 which is intended to suspend or revoke business liscenses of employers who knowingly hire illigals. It also makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegals. It also denies benefits such as rental assistance and public benefits. This information can be found in the USA Today written buy Emily Bazar. 15,000 to 20,000 have left Tulsa County alone most of them to Arkansas where there state is ready to adopt the same kind of law. Just think the influx of illigals that will be coming to a state that does not have these laws on the books. We as a state need act now before it is to late. Instead to catering to there needs check and see if they are legal.
for the kids
Jan 19, 2008 7:45 PM
FYI they are not all from Mexico. A lot of them are from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Peru. Just because they pass through the Mexico-USA border doesn't mean they are Mexicans. Some are here illegally from Laos, Sudan, Ethiopia, but they didn't cross the southern US border, so they wouldn't be Mexicans, huh. Once all the illegal "HISPANICS" are removed your next obstacle will be copping and living with the Somalis. They like to have their prayer time at work. Read up on them you'll be shocked. NO taxes, most are on welfare. One mention to me that everything was free here. Step out into the world and check it out. Don't label people on how they look. Just because you see someone white or black doesn't mean their here legally.

No one is immune to paying taxes from their pay checks, if so where does that money go? Taxes taken out of the homes they buy. They are taxed on gas they put into the cars they drive.

Don't blame the Hispanic students, because you need a new school in Schuyler. I wouldn't let my kids walk into North Ward if they paid me a million dollars. The heating unit is ancient. I know I walked those hallways. Oh, did I mention all the asbestos. I hope I never get cancer from that. You might as will knock it down for the price it would cost to renovate it. It's better than the trailers ours kids have been in for who knows how many years.

Step out of your little boxes you call homes and step out into the real world. Don't comment on something you only read in today's paper, but view it through the eyes of the people going through it all. If you think I'm wrong, it's ok to be scared.

It's sad to say that the kids pay for what their parents do. Yes, if you do something illegally you should be punished for it. But remember they're only here for a better life. Nothing like what they had in their own countries they came from. Wars, or working at very young ages. In other poor countries you don't have others to take care of you, you take care of yourself no matter what age. A good job, a home, an education, these are all treasures to them. How do you feel about them or just an everyday thing?

Without the help of the CPS, these kids would be going through the same thing so many kids went through in the Grand Island raids and other cities thought the US. No one to pick them up after school, people wondering where these kids would be sleeping, what they would be wearing and who would feed them. Who would take care of them. So many kids afraid, thinking if they didn't run away they would also be taken, too. Taken to a world of poverty. To a county that isn't there home. What a horrible thing for a child to go through. Not knowing where to go, what to do, or the worse not knowing anything about their mom or dad and in some cases both parents. It's like when your house starts on fire. We all teach our kids some kind of escape plan. Why? To protect them, ease the pain and suffering, to be able to locate each other. Unfortunately, not everybody in this world thinks with an open heart, but the kids in this area are lucky. They won't have to go through the same nightmare the kids in the Grand Island area did. I know the families will be very appreciative when there is a raid in this area, because their kids that are here legally will be taken good care of. Kudos to the CPS for thinking ahead and for thinking of the kids.
SouthSideRes
Jan 19, 2008 8:07 PM
To bad ignorance doesn't equal wealth as there'd be some mighty rich posters on this board.
What?
Jan 19, 2008 8:21 PM
And what country did our ancestors come from? So I really only belong in Germany then, right? The only REAL legal citizens here are the Native Americans. How can so many people be so insensitive, especially toward INNOCENT children? Illegals are NOT the only ones depleting our social service system. There are plenty of Americans taking just as much or MORE advantage of it. And just because one has a Hispanic background, does not mean they are illegal. More schools are needed even without the illegal population, which isn't as high as you probably think it is. Why do you think most of these people left their homeland? Find some compassion before America is destroyed.
Legally
Jan 19, 2008 9:24 PM
Since when is it racist to insist that every person in this country be here legally. Since when is it racist to expect all to follow our laws, like it or not be they convenient or not? The country of origin, the color of skin has absolutely nothing to do with anything. The core of the problem is the illegality of the matter...the perverted disregard for our laws. I understand the reasons some of these people are here but that doesn't make their being here right. I cannot fathom why this is such a hard concept for some of you to grasp. These people are not doing jobs we won't do. That is just an excuse by those who have no better ones. We always did for ourselves. How did we come up with the idea we have to allow illegals sneaking in in the dead of night to "do jobs we won't do"? For many years we did do them. How did we allow ourselves to be taken over this way? Are we so lazy, so stupid, so ignorant we have handed over our country to people who actually spit on our flag? Who think they are too good to assimilate? too good to even bother with learning the english language? May God help us all!
Grand Island High School Student
Jan 19, 2008 9:47 PM
Hey umm i did write to Ben Nelson And you know what... He didn't write me back!! I told him what problems were caused by the raids and he didnt respond. So what good is that going to do if they dont write you back? Yes i am hispanic! What they going to do about it? I was born here and i speak perfect english and spanish, and i plan to go into the medical field. And guess what there is a BIG demand for bilingual employees. Anybody can be bilingual! Many of the white students take spanish classes at my school and you know who they ask for help? ME and other spanish speaking students! So is Immigration going to kick me out too? Many of the students went through the rough hardship last december in GI. Many of them were left homeless and parentless! They had to stay in the schools. Many of them were scared for thier lives! Just thinking they would have to go back to a horrible country! Why do you think they came here? Why do you think their ancestors tried to seek better lives. And I know this because my ancestors did it and so did YOURS! And our forefathers didn't do anything but take someone else's land and cause problems. All this country cares about is the money! And the illegals, do pay taxes! It comes out of their checks and when they buy goods and services. And they don't get any of that money back, becuase they can't do taxes.You should be complianing to the Nebraska government because they are the one's that have all that money. So stop bickering about the taxes!! Thank you CPS for thinking about the students, because its a sad situation when it comes to the raids. Trust me i've been there and i've witnessed it all!
born in the usa
Jan 19, 2008 10:05 PM
To Martinez You are sadly mistaken that Americans wont do the jobs that You think Latinos do so well. It is called corporate greed which equals cheap labor. For your information our economy sucks that is why Bush is giving out extra money for our taxes. Get informed before you make your racists remarks. Latinos were not the first ones here I stand correct on saying that it was the Native American and then immigrants from Europe came here and worked damn hard and learned the language and became ligitimate citizens of the United States. So why don't you take a page from the Europeans and learn how to become a ligitimate citizen. USA USA USA!!!!
Bill
Jan 19, 2008 10:31 PM
To What: What part do you not understand? It doesn't matter what part of the world they are from or what race they are. Illegal is just that! ILLEGAL! My grandfather followed the law and came to the United States from Holland legally! I'll bet he would be spinning in his grave if he knew what was going on here now! Yes, children need to be safe, but how did this country ever get in to this situation? Because anyone who says it's wrong is labeled a racist!
born in the usa
Jan 19, 2008 10:58 PM
To GI student: I applaud your candid and sincere post. But if your parents were thinking of a better life for you they would of waited in line like the rest of the people who want to be US citizens. I hope you do continue to reach your goals I commend you but you have to realize that our nation has laws that we need to go by. I have personally seen the United States flag flown under the Mexican flag and also the US Flag flown upside down by Hispanics so this tells me that they have no respect for this great land of ours. Im sure Im not the only one who has seen this. If it is such a horrible country then why do I see so many vehicles with the Mexican flag decal? Maybe you have the right reasons to be here but the majority of Illigals don't get it.
hmmm,just thinking
Jan 19, 2008 11:38 PM
Though this article is pertaining to to the welfare of any child that may be caught up into the situation of having their family tore apart and suddenly finding themselves alone,,it needed to also stress that these children wouldn't be in this situation if their parents/caretakers were abiding by the law. It may seem that there is alot of anger, frustration,, maybe hatred towards this minority,, but realistically we, the legal citizens,are quickly becoming the minority. I don't care how many of you may sit there and act holier then thou,,tell the rest of us we are being hateful, and prejudiced, but take a good hard look at yourselves and tell the rest of us honestly that you have never got just the least bit irritated at the fact that financial, medical, and housing aid seems to be so much more accessable to these indivduals, then those of us who work our asses off, try to keep up on our bills, and can hardly make ends meet. When my kids were in school,programs were being cut,there were always articles in the paper about teachers not getting their raises, some having to forfiet some benefits, because the money just wasn't there. Now it is? I don't fault anybody for trying to better their lives for themselves and their families, but it needs to be done legally,,and this doesn't seem to be the case in many instances. These situations have been brought up to the attention of our mayors,senators, governers, and anyone else with power,, but what appears to be happening is that everyone is afraid of stepping on political toes, and opening themselves up to legal liabilities of descrimination. When and where is this going to be "fixed",, is anyones guess,, and truthfully probably won't be "fixed" until the financial building blocks all come falling down. This stress of aiding the illegals is taking it's toll on our schools,businesses, employers,jails,the insurance companies, hospitals, and the list goes on and on. And it's only going to get worse.
American Indian blood
Jan 20, 2008 1:16 AM
To all of you who say "Woe to the poor children..., If I robbed a bank tomorrow who would be there to save my poor children from wondering where their parent was and what was going to happen to them..etc. Do you get the picture? Are they not, in essence, ROBBING OUR BANK? Illegals are breaking the law and know full well that they are putting their children at this risk. Also, don't be fooled, many do have "escape plans" pre-told to their children as well as "just in case" coaching of how to up-rise and "cry" to the reporters (such as Adrian), so that us Americans will have pity on them and support them until their parents or whomever can return (they do have intentions of coming back again for the next ten years or so.) As for Mr. Hillyer, I am sure he enjoys the thought of extra bonuses given to his school for the higher numbers. This is another good reason to tax food more and lessen income or property taxes...they/we ALL have to EAT!(Oh, but that can only go so far because there is no tax on food stamps right?!)What have we gotten ourselves into? And when are we going to clean the mess off our shoes and START DEMANDING the ENGLISH language, STOP allowing DESECRATION of our flag? (If they {illegals}want to be here sooo bad start acting like your on our team and FLY THE RIGHT FLAG!) To G.I. high school student, I'm glad you enjoy our amenities... No personal disrespect but, way back in my bloodline these things were earned, fought for, and hard to hold onto not given away! "OUR goal is to make sure" OUR" kids have a place to stay and their education can go on...!"
great
Jan 20, 2008 3:39 AM
"VIVA LA RAZA" Now that's the way to endear yourself to the local community and to build pro immigant feelings toward educating your children and having you in the community. If you're here legally, fine: if you're not, it's time to take your family and head for home. For the most part, other than the once a year weekend to celebrate our heritage, Czech Festival- Swedish days, most AMERICANS don't go around shouting out phases such as this. These types of issues are really going to help CPS when it comes time to vote for a new middle school-not!
rob g
Jan 20, 2008 7:52 AM
Bill, The problem is that our government created this problem by not securing the border. The higher ups want the cheap labor and it us that pays for it. I commend CPS for this plan. They are not encouraging these people to come here, the fed government is! CPS is just addressing a real problem. These kids are victims in a high stakes corporate scheme. Does anyone really want 13 year old kids on the street without any parents. There are some racist people in Columbus but I do not think anyone is that cruel!
rectifior
Jan 20, 2008 7:55 AM
I see the CPS does not teach right from wrong, legal activities from illegal for the reason they do not know the difference themselves. Columbus needs to take a hard look at the activities and cirruclumn taught in the schools.
Dale
Jan 20, 2008 9:25 AM
So if CPS has the correct information, (i.e. - which parents are legal and which ones are not) it should be their obligation to report them to ICE. It is unfortunate that the children of the criminals (parents who are in this country illegally) have to suffer, but the kids would get a very good lesson on the heartache that breaking the law will cause. Might make good citizens out of them once they are of age to pay taxes and quit burdening our welfare system.
rob g
Jan 20, 2008 9:47 AM
Grand Islander, Good post with many valid points. One thing I do encourage you to do is think of yourself as a American first and encourage one language among your peers and family. "A common language is the key that holds any civilization together"! It really bothers me to see Hispanic marches when they hold the Mexican flag with more respect than the American flag! The Mexican government is a horrble government in, as you said, a horrible country! It is a reality that the Mexican Government's plan is to invade us through illegal immigration, and so far our government has been a willing accomplice in this, "War"!
Don J
Jan 20, 2008 10:27 AM
Your tax dollars are funding activities that are illegal in other parts of OUR country at this time. Give Hillary a call and ask him if he realizes he is breaking the law with your money. Remember the Alamo
Clifton P. Juarez
Jan 20, 2008 11:10 AM
If the United States is truly the country of opportunity and a meritocracy, then no one of any race should be afraid of completely open borders. Either you can chew the leather or you can't. This notion of a God-Given-Right that a person is deserving of everything just because an act of over which (s)he had no control, birth, occurred within the USA borders, is foreign to the Founding Fathers none of whom were born in the USA, for simple fact that the USA had not yet been established. Do I sense a fear among the locals that they cannot step up to the plate and compete? If not, perhaps it is them that should leave and seek out a socialist or communist society in which to live--outside of the USA.
Tyler
Jan 20, 2008 11:32 AM
I think many of you are missing the point here. It is CPS responsibility to ensure all kids go home to the proper parent or guardian. Legal resident or not. I am somewhat familiar with the aftermath of the raid in Grand Island a year so ago. A dozen kids were left at school because the parents either didn’t tell ICE they had kids or didn’t get the chance. All CPS wants to do is educate the immigrant population on the importance of having the right contact information and possibly a power of attorney designating the proper guardianship. Here’s a hypothetical situation: A raid occurs in the area, CPS doesn’t have a plan in place and a kid goes home to a empty house and somehow get injured. Just imagine the outcry, and cost, if an Illegal Immigrant or a human rights group were to sue CPS, us taxpayers, because of this. Creating a plan and a little preparation now can save a lot of time and money in the future.
born in the usa
Jan 20, 2008 11:54 AM
To Clifton: Remember 9/11 that is the reason we do not want open borders. I think your post is the most unintelligent comment made on these posts. Im going to sit back and watch the fury of comments coming toward you Clifton.
Jerry R.
Jan 20, 2008 1:59 PM
To Clifford: This is a country. This greatest country in the world. It is a agreement between the people of this country (not the world, not mexico, no anyone else) objectively and factually described in a document called the Constitution. It provides for objective rules and laws for those who live in this country. Live by the laws, welcome. Break, avoid, and obstruct the law, and we will arrest, export, and execute you. You can live in an imaginary world made up of liberal group think and spout the most ignorant comments as frequently as you do, but you and Adrian Sanchez will never change the facts. Illegal=criminal ! The fact that the Columbus Public Schools educrats assist and abet illegal actions is plain for all to see. You can hide behind children to falsely justify your humanist socialism, but the truth shines on your subversive un-American activities. Real men and women stand for truth and law abiding activities. Continue to remind me why I don't want illegals in this country
Schoolmom1969
Jan 20, 2008 2:11 PM
CPS is not breaking the law. Law enforcement officers and school systems are not allowed BY LAW to ask the legal status of ANY person (regardless of the color of their skin). So. . . if we would do so, we would be law breakers and, now, we wouldn't want to do that. Secondly, hmmm, . . . pay for an education for an immigrant's child, or pay for the incarceration of the same child when they become violent criminals??? HMMM, I choose education. Teach the child the cultural norms and the language, or. . . let them remain un-informed and complain that they don't know the culture or the language. Thirdly, the children should not pay for the choices of the parents. Most of the teen-age immigrants really would rather be back in their own countries to some extent, but, if my parents were to up and move to China I wouldn't be happy about it if I was a teen-ager and. . .I wouldn't have had a choice in the matter. And Finally, go and see for yourself the at-risk programs in place for ALL students in the CPS. They are over-flowing with troubled teens (mostly white) from families who don't give a damn about what their kids are doing or are not equipt to adequately care for their kids. Don't judge or spout about what happens in buildings or doesn't happen in buildings that you know nothing about. I invite you to go and look at the happenings and the curriculum your children (and ALL CHILDREN) are involved in at CPS
Just Average
Jan 20, 2008 4:22 PM
Plain and simple, It is AGAINST THE LAW, Please people call the companies that hire illegals, demand change. The companies are the ones pimping all of us out, why they make the mighty dollar.
Clifton P. Juarez
Jan 20, 2008 6:08 PM
Wow. "Child loving"? I don't remember speaking about that issue. "9/11"? Don't remember any Hispanics among that group (except among the dead). "Greatest Country In the World"? Based upon what? That is simply a subjective assertion. You don't get out much, do you? "The Constitution prohibits CPS' plan?" Don't remember that part, maybe you can cut and paste it here for all to see. "My subversive un-American activies"? Like what? Freedom of expression--now that one I remember being in the Constitution. And, please remember that Mexicans are Americans. Citizens of the United States are Estadounidenses or United Statesians. "Humanist Socialism"? Now, you are mixing religion with politics; never, a good idea. And, my point was that native born United Statesians are the real socialists/communists who are afraid to compete. They want to receive their handouts, whether through tax incentives, farm subsidies, ethanol subsidies, mortgage deductions, Social Security benefits, etc., at the expense of illegal labor but do not want illegal labor to be able to be here. And, you accuse me of having made "the most unitelligent comment ever on these pages"? That is a complement coming from someone like you. Here's an idea: Read a book in English after you have learned that language and then learn a second language, travel outside of the USA and ascertain whether your completely isolated perspective is having any bearing on your conclusions.
J.J
Jan 20, 2008 7:43 PM
For all those who think that illegal immigration is harmless please go to yumasun.com Please pray for the family of the border patrol agent that was killed.
kitty
Jan 20, 2008 8:01 PM
Mr. Juarez--All the people who post here now know what a racist is. It's you. Mexicans are Mexicans. This is the United States of America, and if you are here legally, then you are an American citizen. Yes, we have lazy people, criminals, white trash, etc., but if they are legal, they won't be deported. Illegals, on the other hand, are breaking the law just by being here, and they should all be deported and their kids with them. We don't need illegals to do any work here. They business people want them only because they are cheap labor. The government works hand in hand with business. But our country is going bankrupt anyway because of greed. For all our problems, we're still the best country in the world. Why else would so many people try to live here legally and illegally? We shouldn't blame CPS, they're only following the rules they've been given. Sorry you have so much hate. We don't. We just want our country to stand up and enforce our laws.
out of town
Jan 20, 2008 8:27 PM
I agree with the majority of you. If you are in America legally than welcome and thank you for working and paying taxes. If you are not here legally then go back to where you came from that is the law. As for the children I do feel sorry for them. But their illegal parents should think about what could happen to them if a raid should happen. They should not risk the loss of children or the foster case system to take care of them when they knew all along they were illegal. Once again our tax money spent trying to find a place for these innocent children till their parents get their act together either here or in another country if they are shipped out. I think raids should happen monthly so this type of saga does not happen so often. Also 10 years.....look how long these illegal people have been here, working and not paying taxes. Does that mean free education also??? I am an educator and I agree that we should treat all children equally and I do. My huge concern is whether their parents are here legally or illegally. Legal fine, illegal go back.
born in the usa
Jan 20, 2008 8:35 PM
To Clifton: For now I'll start with One: Completely isolated perspective? I HAVE traveled outside this country during my YEARS of U.S. MILITARY service. Two: Did you say handout? People who work here and pay taxes through their employment earn their tax incentives, Farmers who work "Lord knows" how many hours {you know the ones who put food in your mouth and add a little to your gas tank} deserve those farm subsidies,& what Social Security?... there won't be anything left of our blood-sucked economy to return any SS to most of us "LEGALS" who have contributed. As far as Mexicans being Americans..sure they are ONCE THEY BECOME LEGAL! Frankly, my children have all been able to speak some of a foreign language by atleast the age of five. So, what's the real challenge in asking people who come to live in our country to learn this second language? Read an English book? Whatever! I actually went to school in America all my life and have read a few "English" books (I also speak the language daily!).
About 9/11...how dare you go there! I don't believe anyone said in specific that it was Hispanics. But, that does not mean that Hispanics are so perfect that they are incapable of doing such a thing! After all they have not hesitated to break several laws already. We should close our borders to protect our country from any illegal intruders (like TERRORISTS...duh!)Not the greatest country in the world? If its not good enough... GET OUT! Ever heard of American pride?
frank
Jan 20, 2008 10:26 PM
its a up with this country its one for all All for one. If you want a life change so much learn english so one we can understand you. And go buy the laws that governer this great usa. What are forfather die for for this great country. Not to spit one the ground they fought for be legall and do what it take to be legall are get out thats the laws that keeps people in check thanks.
GitRDun
Jan 21, 2008 9:34 AM
I was going to read all the comments but they started giving me a headache. Like it or not, the reality is that in the event of a raid, there is a good possibility of children being left with nowhere to go. I do believe to stay in this country, you must be a law abiding citizen; by being illegal you are NOT a law abiding citizen. HOWEVER, here's the point: THESE ARE STILL CHILDREN! If parents are arrested and deported, are you really okay with leaving these kids out on the street? Because it will happen...kids get scared and run. Who will they run to???? If they can't find a family member or family friend, they'll run to the person who is willing to take them in. Thats leaving a big, ugly, gaping hole for drug dealers, gangs, pedophiles, and other lowlifes to take advantage of these kids and create problems we don't even what to think about! We MUST begin to think outside the box and become proactive rather than reactive. I applaude CHS for at least taking the initiative to think ahead and be open with the citizens of Columbus about the problem and a plan to handle what may come. This is reality people; whatevever your stand on immigration, this is an issue that CANNOT be ignored, like it or not. And to the hispanic community, this is also YOUR problem! YOU MUST educate those who do not understand or are unwilling to fact this reality. By not addressing this issue, you are being selfish, and putting your children in a precarious position they do not deserve! It is time to step up, take responsibility, and take care of your CHILDREN! Be part of the solution.
Porky
Jan 21, 2008 9:49 AM
CPS...an ancronym for
Coddling (illegal)
Pupils
Systematically

:-(
Clifton P. Juarez
Jan 21, 2008 9:52 AM
When did I say I was of Mexican descent? I'm Puerto Rican. Also, it was white guys who blew up the Oklahoma City Fed Building. Yeah, one that served in the military. Canadians, Bahamians, Jamaicans, Cubans, Arubans, Mexicans, Hondurans, Guatelmalans, Salvadorans, Nicaruagans, Panamanians, Costa Ricans, Venezuelans, Columbians, Chileans, Paraguayans, Peruvians, Brazilians and many more people from other countries are "Americans". Citizens of the United States are United Statsians. When did someone die and make United Statsians the only "Americans"? None of you have answered my question, "Are you afraid to strap up your boots and compete in a global economy with open borders or do you prefer using the rest of the world as your imperialist colonies?" Also, you haven't answered the question about how many languages you speak. You folks sure are good with the bigotry, now if only you could work on self-improvement.
hmmm,just thinking
Jan 21, 2008 10:27 AM
Hmmm, Mr, Juarez, i try not to point fingers and try hard not to single any ojne person out, but you are definaetly pushing my buttons. I think what 99% of the posters on here are trying to get across is that we are getting damned sick and tired of having to work our butts off to pay increased taxes and social security which in reality probably won't be there to benefit us when we need it. This largely due to the fact that this money seeems to be going to supporting and aiding all the illegals in our country, whether they be from mexico, el salvador or where ever else you deemed to mentioned. One of your points you stressed you wanted answered was in reference to how many languages do we speak. Well quite frankly english is sufficiant as that is what is the u.s. citizen SHOULD be required to know. It SHOULD be made a mandatory requirement to obtain u.s. citizenship. If we were to move to another country and become a citizen of that country, the same should apply. I have some interesting sites that really open up eyes, and shows why "we the people" are getting so irritated at having to coddle and basically kiss a** of the illegals that see fit to "intrude" upon us, and expect us to support them and their families.>> I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and >> over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of >> reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following >> facts:>> 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to >> illegal aliens each year. >> http://tinyurl.com/zob77>> 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food >> assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for >> illegal aliens. >> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html>> 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for >> illegal aliens. >> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html>> 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and >> secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot >> speak a word of English! >> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html>> 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for >> the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. >> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html>> 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate >> illegal aliens. >> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html>> 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal >> aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html>> 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens >> for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. >> http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html.. And there is several more where these came from,, Now you tell me,,, why shouldn't we be fed up with all this beureacratic crap.
Legally
Jan 21, 2008 11:06 AM
TO Clifton Juarez: You apparently do not consider yourself one of us;that is, legal American citizens. In reading your last post you set us apart from yourself. And there is no such term as United Statsians(?). We're called Americans. I don't get that you call yourself "American". FOR THE REMAINING POSTERS: Make note of MARTINEZ CARMELITA's attitude. This is a very good example of the attitude of so many illegals here...their race above all else. This is why the illegals fly their flags above the U.S. flag, why they refuse to assimilate or learn English. Somewhere these people got the idea they are a necessary part of our existence...that we are not able to function without an illegal. Carmelita, our country was much better off before illegals snuck in only as criminals do...in the dead of night. We welcome any legal immigrant to this country. We abhor the blatant disregard of our laws. Illegals and their relatives who hide them thumb their noses at our laws because for some unknown reason they feel superior. I've got news for you, Carmelita. Every legal citizen can pick a strawberry as capably as any illegal. We just have more important things to do.
Once again
Jan 21, 2008 11:26 AM
Once again most of you are ignoring the fact that CPS and ALL other school districts in the country and REQUIRED to EDUCATE all children, whether here legally or illegally...Look at the Supreme Court decision saying that this is how is is. If you don't like that decision, then it's time to contact every single person in Congress and tell them to pass a law to change this. Until that happens, this district and every other school district in the country needs to have some type of plan in place in order to protect and watch over the children that an ICE raid would affect. CPS is no different in it's regard to legal or illegal status than any other district-state or nationally, so get off their backs and contact the people who can do something about this...
Clifton P. Juarez
Jan 21, 2008 12:46 PM
If you read a newspaper from any latin country, you will find the term "estadounidenses" (United Statesians). America consists of two large continents. It does not consist solely of the United States. By your logic, only one of the many Arab countries would be permitted to call themselves "Arabs". Let's face it, none of you are educated beyond the eighth grade. That much is obvious. You post lies with "agenda" websites as sources (and totally ignoring how much illegal aliens pay in taxes--and they won't receive a dime of Social Security). For example, if you believe that 30% of incarcerated criminals are illegals, you are truly in need of pursuing an education. For those of you who don't know, "Martinez" is an appelido (surname) and "Carmelita" is a first name. Your use of the name, incorrectly, exemplifies your ignorance. As a Puerto Rican, for those of you who do not know (and I suspect that is well over 90% of you), I am a citizen of the United States. But, I am also an American. You may want to learn other languages because there are more than one spoken in the Americas: French, Spanish, Dutch, Portugues, Indigenous, English, Japanese, Mandarin, Czech, German, Russian, etc. You can't be a good United Statesian and only speak English. Just can't. How can you listen to what other people are saying? Try and learn another language before you are so hypocritical of others. Try and learn other cultures (like, say, Samoan (part of the USA), Puerto Rican, Dixie, New Yorker, Wyomingite and others. Contrary to your xenophobia (named after the Greek Xeno), there is a whole big world out there awaiting you. And, no, you are not the best, the USA is not the best, your thoughts are not the best. There is no best. Learn to accept and be accepted. Get away from your Yanqui arrogance for which the entire world hates you. Even the Brits.
enuf already
Jan 21, 2008 1:00 PM
Too bad the illegal parents did not think of this before they had them. Of course why should they? The good old US of A and the fools in Congress want to give them everything. I am OK with giving them one thing free-a ride back to where they came from and a "Don't come back unless you do it legally" sticker on their forehead!
Oh Well
Jan 21, 2008 1:31 PM
I could care less what "the Brits" or anyone else thinks of this great country. Yes, I said Great country, after all if the U.S. were so bad then why do millions of people come here that are not legal. Also Mr. Clifton, by name calling you lose all your credit. Were you born with hatred in your heart or was this something you learned? By the way sir, happy MLK day, if you know what that is
IF their parents cared
Jan 21, 2008 1:51 PM
IF these kids parents cared about them then they would have come here legally!!!!!!! I don't care if they are legal because they were born here that does not make it right. And the fact that the school is wasting time and money that could have been used on something that mattered really upsets me. It is not our responsibility to find a home for these children, their parents brought them here then they can take them home!!!!!!!!!!
Legally
Jan 21, 2008 2:00 PM
Clifton: You may portray yourself as an elightened man of the world but I bet you are actually a very narrow minded person. First of all, What would make you think I would want to read a latin american newspaper. There's no need or reason to do so. As far as my use of martinez carmelita...I just copied her use of the term...If it is wrong, blame her...I thought she would know the proper usage of her name. I can be a very good American, Clifton, and only speak English. That is the language of America. If you do not know and believe that the United States is the best country you should not be here. Please go to the country you think is the best. America will not miss you or those like you as you are the ones bringing our country down. Isn't that the reason, clifton, you and others like you risk life and limb to sneak into this country? If this country is as you believe it to be wouldn't more people be leaving? That's what's called common sense, clifton. And you know what, clifton? I really care not one whit what the brits or really any one else thinks of my country. When a country needs something who do they ask? Right! The U.S. and we are always there to help. No one else can say that.
ruralbetter
Jan 21, 2008 2:10 PM
Maybe ICE should come up with a place to put the children of the parents detained(gather them all up for a family affair after all they are all in this together) then they could all be together, at the same building but maybe in a kid friendly room?
momof2
Jan 21, 2008 2:36 PM
So Clifton, if this country is so bad please explain to me why you are still here taking advantage of the great oppurtunites that are available? Legal or not why is someone like you here?
gag me
Jan 21, 2008 2:38 PM
Yanqui??? What language is that? Go back to Puerto Rico and nurse old what's his name.
nigel
Jan 21, 2008 6:38 PM
Mr. Juarez I speak another language. I refused to take the language classes offered in high school because I was not interested in what was offered. I learned Russian in college. As far as open borders,a global economy, and the like, i am against such thoughts. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States of America which is slowly being taken away by the likes of NAFTA and the U.N. I also do not believe in a one world government which i would fight in any way possible up to my last breath. I will always welcome anyone who comes to this country legally.
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